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Dan Wesson History
« on: February 25, 2006, 07:33:50 PM »
It is asked often for Dan Wesson info or history, here is a couple of clips from the old Dan Wesson website.

THE DAN WESSON HERITAGE: THE MAN AND THE GUN

Dan Wesson Arms Co., Inc./ Wesson Firearms Co., Inc. 1968-1995

Each Dan Wesson Firearms revolver bears the name of Daniel B. Wesson, who founded Dan Wesson Arms Co., Inc. in 1968. The great-grandson of D. B. Wesson, co-founder of Smith & Wesson, his goal was to build the finest revolvers that the shooting world had ever seen. He accomplished this by creating guns that were innovative, virtually indestructible, and capable of match-grade accuracy right out of the box.

Dan Wesson was a perfectionist, preferring to build a few truly great guns, rather than many merely good ones. In an era of mega-corporations and bottom-line management, he would never allow quality to be sacrificed for the sake of quantity. And it didn’t stop there. His philosophy was “You can never be fully satisfied. You can always make something better.” This kept him on a course of constant improvement, while providing his customers with the very best revolvers that money could buy.

Elgin Gates, the father of modern handgun silhouette shooting, said of Dan Wesson, “He was one of the great men of the firearms industry and of his time; one of those individuals who made things happen, who kept the handgun world honest because he built the best guns that brains and material could turn out. Because of that, the others dared not do less.”



DAN WESSON FIREARMS: THE NEW GENERATION

Current History since 1996

I’m Bob Serva, president of Dan Wesson Firearms. In 1996 I had the opportunity to purchase the Wesson Firearms Co. of Palmer, MA. after if had gone out of business. I had always had a liking for the Dan Wesson revolver, with it’s strength, accuracy, interchangeable barrels and modern aesthetics. I personally had been shooting a Dan Wesson revolver for many years with great satisfaction. My aspiration of bringing back to life the defunct Wesson Firearms Co. became a reality in the spring of 1996, when I purchased the company from its sole remaining owner. Included in the purchase of the company were the tooling, patents, trademarks, intellectual properties and all remaining inventories. None of the machinery from the old plant was purchased or put into service at the new location because most of the old equipment was just that, old and tired.

In the early summer of 1996, a group of close friends and I rented fleet trucks and proceeded to Palmer, MA to sort through and move all of the items from Wesson Firearms Co. to upstate New York. After getting settled in, we started to go through the old tooling and realized that if we were going to make a product that would measure up to the standards Dan Wesson himself would have expected, we were not going to be able to do it with most of the tired old tooling. We would have to build new. It was time for a superbly designed firearm to have a new birth.

With the help of some tooling experts we summarized the machining processes and it’s applications to new high-tech horizontal machining centers. The first revolvers were shipped in December of 1997 after months of very hard work. We were extremely proud of our first production run. The fit, finish and function of the revolvers were excellent. The newly purchased YAG laser improved the markings and serial numbering of the frames and barrel assemblies dramatically.

During 1998 we continued to incorporate production and assembly refinements. On the manufacturing floor we continued to update with additional CNC lathes, polishing stations and training new hires. At the end of the year we added the SRS-1 (Super Ram Silhouette) line of silhouette target revolvers, introduced due to customer demand for a long range target-acquiring revolver with superior sights.

1999 has been an exciting year of growth for the company. We have added two new models to our large frame series, and reintroduced the powerful .414 SuperMag. The model 360 is the .357 magnum in our large .44 magnum series frame chambered to accept .357 maxi brass trimmed back to 1.42”, providing additional case capacity. This allows the use of some of today’s larger and heavier hunting and target bullets for the .357 magnum. The model 460 is a .45 caliber revolver that will chamber and fire the .45 ACP, .45 +P, .45 Super, 460 Rowland & the .45 Winchester Magnum using moon clips. The 460 will also fire the .45 Auto Rimmed without moon clips.

We have also reintroduced the Pistol Packs and Hunter Packs this year. These two packs have a new carry case and a configuration that differ slightly from those of the past. The new case has been upgraded to an elegant navy blue cordura over wood case with black leather trim, brass corners, hinges and dual combination locks. Inside the case is die-cut foam to secure the firearm and accessories. This case will remind you of a high grade English style shotgun case, only smaller.

This coming year we are reintroducing the retooled and reprocessed small frame series, the .22 Long Rifle through the small frame .357 magnum. Also behind the curtain for 2000 is the introduction of Dan Wesson Firearms first production semi-automatic pistol, the Pointman, a 1911 government style model. Initial production models will be stainless steel in .45 ACP. Several prototype models were introduced in late fall of 1999. This product will follow in the Dan Wesson Firearms tradition of innovation and quality. Soon to follow is the Guardian, a commander style 1911 semi-automatic, also in .45 ACP, as well as parts for upgrading any Colt-style 1911.

We are investing the time, effort and financial resources necessary to bring the Dan Wesson Firearms company forward as a commanding leader in innovation and quality in the firearms industry. Our goal is not to be a high volume producer of cheap firearms. We will only produce the best of the best, and continue to make it even better—just like Dan Wesson himself.

Throughout history, most people who have purchased firearms have looked to acquire one that would provide a lifetime of shooting enjoyment for themselves as well as future generations of their family. The Dan Wesson Firearms vision is to put the kind of lasting value into every handgun we produce that will ensure they exceed the status of a mere firearm and become a true piece of history.


The Dan Wesson Firearms Revolver

Most revolvers are modifications of designs which date back more than a century. The Dan Wesson Firearms revolver is a modern design, created for strength, accuracy, simplicity, and durability. Its unique barrel/shroud interchangeability makes it not only more versatile than traditional revolvers, but also far more consistently accurate. Dan Wesson Firearms’ manufacturing methods produce parts to exacting specifications, which result in performance and handling qualities without equal in the handgun field.

The accuracy of the Dan Wesson revolver is well established and documented. Its performance in metallic silhouette competition is legendary. Experienced competitors know that the Dan Wesson revolver shows undeviating accuracy at distances where other revolvers faltered. In competition, hunting, law enforcement, protection, or simple enjoyment, the Dan Wesson revolver stands alone.

The Dan Wesson revolver incorporates many distinctive features that contribute to smooth performance, tight groups, and rock-solid reliability. Here are some of the most important.

FRAME: The Dan Wesson frame is noted for its strength. Each revolver, regardless of caliber, is designed and produced as a magnum revolver, rather than a traditional design upgraded to handle magnum loads. Dan Wesson was often accused of over-engineering, to which he readily pled guilty as charged.

ACTION: Dan Wesson revolvers have a short, fast double action and a crisp, clean single action pull. An adjustable trigger stop eliminates any trace of backlash. The mainspring is a coilspring rather than the traditional fragile flat spring. These revolvers have fewer parts than other revolvers, and the parts were designed for utmost strength and simplicity in assembly and function. Initial assembly requires very little fitting, and repairs, if ever necessary, are easily made. New Dan Wesson Firearms customers are often amazed at the smoothness of the action. Although it is was true that on other revolvers, owners would have to pay for some extra gunsmithing to get a double or single action trigger pull this good, on the Dan Wesson it is included at no extra cost.

CYLINDER: Dan Wesson cylinders are produced from aircraft quality heat-treated steel and are stronger, with heavier chamber walls, than other revolver cylinders.

CYLINDER LATCH: The latch or cylinder lock is up front, next to the barrel, assuring positive alignment between the cylinder and the barrel. It also keeps the latch out of the way of the shooters thumb while firing, eliminating the possibility of accidentally opening the cylinder during recoil. The cylinder/crane assembly locks shut to the frame with its latch in the crane itself, not at the rear of the cylinder and the front of the ejector rod or at the rear of the cylinder alone. Rear lockup is equally strong; a spring-tensioned ball bearing in the frame that snaps into a perfectly machined recess in the center of the solid extractor. Systems that latch the cylinder only at it's rear or in conjunction with the ejector rod allow the crane to move slightly away from the frame under stress. This results in varied chamber alignment with the barrel and loss of consistency in round-to-round accuracy. This locking configuration allows one-handed opening and extraction while the other hand prepared for reloading, so necessary in timed competition shooting.

BARREL/SHROUD: From the very beginning, all Dan Wesson revolvers have been distinguished by their unique system of interchangeable barrels and shrouds. The desirability of the barrel-change feature is obvious. There is no other gun that enables a swap to 2 1/2", 4", 6", 8" or 10” tubes in less than a minute. But to a handgun competitor, the Dan Wesson barrel design makes sense in another way. The design is such that it's locked front and back, both at the breech and at the muzzle by the enclosing shroud and barrel nut. This reduces vibration, and keeps the tube under a slight but constant amount of tension. With this secure foundation, there is less variation in the flexing of the barrel from round to round, and consequently better accuracy. In addition, the shroud on the Dan Wesson revolver protects the inner barrel as well as the ejector rod from being accidentally damaged.

RIFLING: Dan Wesson revolver barrels are produced from aircraft-quality heat-treated steel using cut (broached) and swagged rifling. This results in very sharp and crisp edges to the lands and grooves - and a better "bite" on the bullet. The barrel muzzle is flat and square with the bore, assuring that the bullet exits the muzzle at all points simultaneously.

BARREL/CYLINDER GAP: The width of the B/C gap can be carefully and precisely controlled by screwing the barrel slightly in or out. This contributes to superior accuracy. With every revolver, a precise feeler gauge is included for setting the proper tolerance between barrel and cylinder.

FIRING PIN: All Dan Wesson revolvers have the firing pin contained in the frame, rather than exposed on the hammer. This protected it from damage caused by accidents or misuse.

GRIPS: The unique frame design of the Dan Wesson revolver can accommodate an infinite variety of grip shapes and sizes. Old-style two-piece grip panels restrict the size and shape of the grip that can be used. The Dan Wesson uses a one-piece grip which is stronger and could be shaped to fit any shooter or shooting requirement. The grips are held to the frame by a heavy bolt that screwed into the frame extension. Interchanging grips is simple, done by pulling off the installed stock, positioning the new one and replacing and tightening the screw.

FLEXIBILITY: The Dan Wesson offers the opportunity to own a revolver virtually custom-built to personal requirements. Choices include a wide range of barrel lengths, shroud configurations, grip shapes and materials and sight configurations. Whether a customer chooses a basic revolver or an elaborate, cased multi-barrel system, their Dan Wesson revolver is uniquely their own, built to their exact specifications

and here is another great website with Dan Wesson Info.

http://www.notpurfect.com/main/dwrev.htm

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Dan Wesson History
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2006, 04:54:53 PM »
History:
Dan Wesson, the great-grandson of D.B. Wesson co-founder of Smith & Wesson, was born in 1916. He worked in the family company from 1938 until 1963 when S & W was acquired by Bangor Punta. Having formed a tool and die company in 1948, he left S & W and changed the name of D. B. Wesson, Inc. to Dan Wesson Arms. The firearms of Dan Wesson Arms earned a reputation as a silhouette gun. But by 1983 Dan Wesson Arms was in trouble. The family had gotten out of the company and the popularity of silhouette shooting had declined. The quality of the firearms dropped according to many owners of Dan Wesson revolvers made during this time. At one point it looked as though the company would close down. But then Seth (the son of Dan Wesson) and Carol Wesson took control of the company renaming it Wesson Firearms Co. This version of the company soon floundered. After several years, New York International bought up the name and has restarted a company intending to produce the Dan Wesson design guns again.



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The classic Dan Wesson revolvers are big heavy frame guns. The large bore frames (i.e. > 357 Magnum) are in the same strength class as the Ruger Blackhawk and the TC contender. Cylinder wall thickness on the 44 Magnum Dan Wesson is a few thousandths greater than on the equivalent Ruger Blackhawk. The Dan Wesson big bore revolvers are the guns that win in IMHSA Production Class (essentially a `stock' class, no custom guns, and there used to be a upper price limit), both because they are very accurate, and because they will stand up to many thousands of full power loads without shooting loose. Only since the repeal of the price ceiling in Production Class IMHSA have other more expensive brands gained a foothold in the winners circle.

There are several distinctive feature that separate the Dan Wesson revolver from the S&W and Rugers of the revolver world. The cylinder latch is not in the conventional left rear sideplate location, but rather is on the left side of the crane, just forward of the cylinder. It is pushed down to open the cylinder rather than forward or backward. Only the small frame guns have side plates, there are no sideplates on the big bore frame sizes. On the big bore frames, all parts are fitted and installed through the gap left when the trigger assemby is removed. This greatly increases the strength of the frame of the Dan Wesson pistol.

Due to their tensioned barrel system, these revolvers are capable of great accuracy. The tensioned barrel system consists of a cylindric barrel that screws into the frame, with a barrel shroud that is then fitted over the barrel. This shroud is attached to the muzzle end of the barrel by a thin nut that is inside threaded. The guns come packed with the special wrench needed to use this system, so if you buy a used gun, make sure you get the wrench as well. When the system is tightened up, the inner barrel is under tension, while the shroud is under compression. This tensioned barrel system also allows the cylinder gap to be adjusted. For those of you that shoot very high intensity cartridges, like the 357 Maximum, this shrouded barrel system allows the inexpensive (about $80) replacement of the barrel. Also, this barrel system allows you to change the barrel length to suit the circumstances, you can use the same gun with a 2" barrel for carry and a 12" barrel for hunting. There are also barrel assemblies available that have a built in compensator. At one time, the revolvers were offered with a vented barrel and shroud, in theory venting some of the propellant gases through holes in the inner barrel and two vents on the top of the shroud located about 3/4" back from the muzzle. This venting system was not very efficient, and more importantly, it tended to build up lead, copper, and general crud inside the shroud. This made removal of the barrel assembly difficult.

Barrel-shroud assemblies are available in 2,4,6,8,12,15". The compensated barrel assemblies run about 1" longer. In 1994, the Dan Wesson revolver became available in a conventional fixed barrel version, at slightly less cost. These fixed barrel guns were an attempt to compete with the big boys (S&W, Ruger, Tarus) for the vanilla gun buyer. These fixed barrel guns will not be reintroduced by the NYI company.

Since the Dan Wesson revolver uses a trigger transfer bar safety that is very similar if not identical to that used by the Rugers, you can expect to end up with a post-trigger job trigger on par with the post-trigger job trigger you would get on a Ruger. It will not be the 'glass-rod' clean break of the S&W revolvers, but it will suffice for all but the most critical.

The quality control on these revolvers has been off-and-on very bad. The new company is quite well aware that quality is the criteria that they will live or die by. As a consequence the price of the new production guns will be slightly higher, and the emphasis will be on the unique products (the Supermag calibers). A small company can't hope to compete with the likes of Ruger and Smith & Wesson, and will go bankrupt if they try.

One thing to keep in mind when considering the purchase of a large frame double action revolver: your choices are among the group of Smith and Wesson, Ruger, Tarus, Colt, and Dan Wesson for guns in the 'reasonable' price class. (yes, you can buy a Casull or a Korth, but if you can afford these guns, you probably aren't reading this FAQ for anything other than amusement) The Dan Wesson is probably in the same price class as the Taurus, but it's as strong as the Rugers, and as accurate if not more so than the S&W.

22LR Dan Wesson Revolver Accuracy issues Over the last fewe years I've asked about peoples experience with the Dan Wesson 22LR revolvers, prompted by a few bad experiences of mine with these guns. Please note that I have not had any experience with the new production guns from NYI, only the older companies products. As of July 20 1998, I'd received about 40 useful responses to my request for peoples experiences. About half the people reported average groups of greater than 1"@25 yards, the other half less than one inch at the same distance. Six people report groups less than 1/2" @ 25 yards, with half of those having custom barrels and one other having replaced his factory barrel with another factory barrel. Overall, more than a few people have replaced their barrels for reasons of excessive leading and/or inaccuracy. At this point I'm inclined to belive that I just ran across several Dan Wesson 22's that had poor quality control. If you have problems with your Dan Wesson 22, consider replacing the barrel with a high quality aftermarket one, or with a factory barrel . These used to cost about $40 from the factory, I have no idea what they are charging now.

Assembly Tips
When reassembling a small frame DW, be sure that the side plate is secure and tight. If the side plate is not fully tight, the hand will not enage the cyclinder fully and the gun will not come fully into battery when cocked.
When removing the barrel nut, put a modest to large amount of pressure on the wrench, into the barrel nut. This prevents the barrel nut from stripping. The manual give this advice, ignore it at your peril.
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Dan Wesson History
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2006, 01:18:46 PM »
This should bring the history up to date.

In 2005 a great opportunity came to Dan Wesson Firearms in the form of the world’s largest firearms producer CZ. CZ had been looking at Dan Wesson Firearms for its revolvers, innovative thinking and implementation of new products within the marketplace. CZ-USA in early 2005 acquired Dan Wesson Firearms and is now managing it as a part of the CZ corporate group. For the first time in the history of Dan Wesson Firearms all key business components to take the company forward exist. With CZ, the corporate structure to develop the company properly now firmly exists and it now has the brightest future outlook it has ever had. All major components, management, development, manufacturing, marketing and sales are now in place for Dan Wesson firearms to develop into a world class company. With the union with CZ, Dan Wesson Firearms is now positioned with the recourses and personnel to make it a top manufacturer in the global firearms market. This history will continue to step forward with new and exciting products and innovation from the excellent people of CZ and Dan Wesson Firearms.
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Re: Dan Wesson History
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2008, 05:49:10 AM »
Don't forget about the inventor, Karl Lewis.
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Re: Dan Wesson History
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2009, 08:32:21 AM »
Yep,, Carl Lewis was an important contributor to the development. Some where in this forum,, maye a year or more ago.. I posted the bio of Carl. I will see if I can find it.

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Re: Dan Wesson History
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2009, 08:40:22 AM »
I done found it after a 10 minuite search.. I did lear a bit about Carl Lewis the Track & field Olympian. Boy could he run! Here is the link to the patriot we are talking about.
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