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rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« on: June 06, 2010, 03:05:02 PM »
Have a h&r single shot 22-250 I bought and have not shot at all. The price was rite so I picked it up. It has a 14 twist and I have a different 22-250 that is a 10 twist that I am happy with. What if anything larger can I get it reborred to. Have a .243 and .270 already. Something between would be great. Would be used primarily for deer. Any ideas?

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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2010, 05:04:15 PM »
Wont that cost about 2/3 the price of the baqrrel you really want? perhaps just make it a 22-250ai

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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2010, 05:29:42 PM »
Have a h&r single shot 22-250 I bought and have not shot at all. The price was rite so I picked it up. It has a 14 twist and I have a different 22-250 that is a 10 twist that I am happy with. What if anything larger can I get it reborred to. Have a .243 and .270 already. Something between would be great. Would be used primarily for deer. Any ideas?

Seriously trade it off, not worth even the thought of re-boring/re-chambering.

Ackley Improved isn’t an option since the barrel cannot be set back properly.

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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2010, 08:04:46 AM »
List your barrel in the H&R classified section. You could sell it outright or trade it for a caliber you want.
No sense having it in the cabinet collecting dust...  :)



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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2010, 06:56:17 AM »
I'm not sure of the caliber list available but the are some interesting possibilities.. how about a 338 Federal.. A really good deer caliber that should do OK without the premium bullets.. Bullets in the 180-210 grain range.. Or perhaps a 358 Winchester.. Bullet weight range is different but the slower speeds and heavier bullets should make standard cup-and-core bullets work well and still be a great performer in the field.. A 6.5/06 would be another possibility. Good ranging ability and plenty of horsepower for anything on this continent besides perhaps the biggest bears.. Maybe a 240 Weatherby or a 6mm-06 either of which produce about the most velocity that's even remotely reasonable with the .243 diameter bullets.. I kinda lean towards the 338 Federal but am heading toward building one of those muself and may be prejediced by the excitement of an impending new project.!!
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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2010, 07:01:37 PM »
Is 224 caliber rounds legal for deer in your area?
If so work up a 50 to 64 grain load that your rifle likes and shoot deer with it under 100 yards.
You will need to pick you shots.  So if you are done trophy hunting and are meat hunting or Doe Culling.
The 22-250 may make it a challange.

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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2010, 02:12:20 AM »
Thanks for your replies. I think I am just going to keep it and reload some 40 grainers and see how it goes. .224 is legal in pa for deer. I was able to pick up a new rossi 22-250 for 70 bucks new at a Dicks store and it has a 1-10 twist that I will prob use to shoot some does with the 64 graim win pp or the 70 grain speer sp as that twist will prob handle those bullets well. My prob was the handi only has a 1-14 twist and was concerened that it would only shoot the lighter loads. I need to get to the range and give them both a try. thanks again.

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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2010, 02:23:55 AM »
should be fun to make up loads and try them it both guns. no telling which one will like which load till the shooting starts. enjoy
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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2010, 05:09:34 AM »
 ;) Deer hunter #1... all of my current .22-250's are 1-14 twist...so far I have had NO trouble loading 64 grain WW in any of them they are very accurate with this load...I have even used this bullet in my .222 and .223 for turkey loads...the old Speer 70 was designed to shoot in the .1-14 twist rifles I believe, for I have shot several hundred over the years...when they first came on the market, the 1-14 twist was about the only one available...I assume it is still the same 70 grainer I shot years ago..one thing I would mention with those bullets I shot p. dogs with them and they surprised me in being quite explosive.....I have heard the 64 grain WW was designed for the .223 for deer hunting where that caliber is legal...have nothing to prove it, I read it somewhere......

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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2010, 06:08:32 AM »
I think mcwoodduck is on target. When I was a kid in the last century a neighbor had two barrels for his Winchester M70, one in 220 Swift and the other was the original 30-06 barrel.  I was a member of a couple of deer drives in which he killed bucks with the 220 Swift barrel and heavy Sisk bullets.

Before the first hunt I was rather pessimistic.  A friend had shot up a nice buck with five or six rounds with his Remington .222 loaded with factory bullets designed for woodchucks.  After witnessing the older hunter’s kill using the right bullet I realized that with the proper bullet, good marksmanship, and within a reasonable range centerfire .22 caliber rifles can be utilized for deer.  The kills I witness were made within 100-yards which I consider a reasonable range because the round is going to shed velocity and energy very fast.

I would reach out for the 60-grain Nosler Partition.  Having used the Partition in other calibers I recognize the front portion of the bullet opens very fast transmitting a lot of shock to the target.  The portion behind the partition continues deep.

Entering the world of the unknown Barnes long for caliber 50-grain TSX might fill the bill for deep penetration and expansion.

The young hunter with the .222 was a very good shot and had taken numerous rabbits and woodchucks with the .222.  He had the “sneak” down pat and got close to the buck.  The bullet that was designed for varmints blew up on the big bucks rib cage creating a massive wound on the ribs.  It required another three or four shots to get the job done. 

Now days the non-reloader with a 22-250 can buy a couple deer loads, the Cor-bon using the Barnes Triple Shock X bullet and the Federal offers the 60-grain Nosler, and the Barnes Triple Shock in the premium line.

Fifty some years ago my friend would have been better off with a 30-30 Winchester with any of the 150 or 170 grain bullets found in factory ammunition.  In those days’ heavy bullets in .224 diameter was a handloader's game. In 2010 the owner of a 22-250 has more options if he is a handloader or depends on factory ammunition.
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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2010, 08:54:40 AM »
Siskiyou, is very correct...I have hunted in many states where .22's were legal...and over the years shot quite a bit of medium big game with the 22's from the Hornet up to the Cheetah...never had a failure, but some less than steller performance twice...other wise they performed very well...at less than 150 yards, I would say very well. BUT there was lots of game and I had lots of time...to make a good shot...I still prefer a heavier caliber for general deer hunting especially if a really big buck could show up...but big deer are the thing I love most, although I am not a trophy hunter....

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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2010, 09:24:19 AM »
The nosler partition looks like a great bullet with regards to its ability to mushroom yet retain weight. The problem is that they are three times the price as the win power point or sierra. In the 22 caliber I am sure that the best bullet is what should be used but I will try the others on some wet phone books at the range and see what types of result I get. Hopefully one will perform well or I will be using the partitions as I agree that with the small caliber I need to be using the best bullet I can get.

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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2010, 10:51:25 AM »
Please allow me to switch to some other calibers to make a point when it comes to expensive bullets because I am on a limited budget.

Until recently I had a 6.5x55.  I had handloads in the 140-grain and 120-grain Remington C-L, and the 140-grain Nosler Partition, along with Swedish FMJ.  I found that the rifle put those bullets in the same little 100-yard group.  On finding that out I saved the Noslers for hunting.  On impact the Nosler PT flatted a buck at 150 yards.  I was impressed with the 6.5 and the bullet.

The second rifle is a 300 Savage that Dad gave me when he quit hunting because of advanced age.  I had inherited a rifle with a history of taking deer.  I have loaded for the rifle over twenty years.  It likes I50-grain bullets, but I tried 165-grain bullets.  I tried Hornady, Remington, and a limited supply of Noslers.  Again I had three bullets shooting into the same group.  I would have been happy with any of the three but hunted with Nosler after running the ballistics.

I killed this buck with the 165-grain Nosler, the bullet hit the deer at an angle in the front shoulder, and the bullet went deep into the shoulder, up the neck, into the spine and out the other side.  The deer went down so fast that I lost it in the recoil of the rifle.  I have fired about a 100 rounds out of that rifle this winter, but none of them were my Noslers.



Temptation got to me last summer and I bought a box of 130-grain TTSX Barnes bullets for my 270 Winchester. These guys cost more than Nosler Partitions.  This has to be the most accurate bullet I have ever loaded.  I am pleased that they shoot in the same group as 140-grain WW (old) Silvertips do in my rifle.  This bullet is reported to give premium performance that goes with the premium price. 

If your rifle will group the low price bullet and the high price bullet at 100-yards save the high price bullets for hunt.  One way of taking the 22-250 out of the varmint class into the deer class is the selection of the right bullet.  My friend’s .222 Remington experience using a varmint bullet for deer left a poor test in his mouth.  He knew he was using the wrong round for the job and felt sick for doing so.  As long as I knew him he did not return to deer hunting.
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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2010, 11:46:26 AM »
 ;)Siskiyou, you mentioned using the .300 Sav. and reloading for it....is it a 99?....I have a nice one, and have used it on mulies, antelope, and whitetails...I really like the little rifle as a change from my bolt guns....BUT I have never done much loading for 99's...had trouble with cases seperating with the 250 Sav., and don't use it much so just shot factory...my 358 does well with handloads, better than the .250...with the little .300 if figured to just shoot factory ammo. but came across a set of used dies, so now I have them...the little .300 was very popular when I first came here 40 years ago, but are seldom seen now...what is your favorite powder for the .300 Sav. I am pretty much stuck with traditional powders, h4895, i3031, and I 4350...I figured it is too slow for the little case...haven't really looked at the data, but figured when I had a man with experience infront of me why not ask...thanks......

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Re: rebore a 22-250 but to what?
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2010, 04:55:32 PM »
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I answered your question regarding the 300 Savage over in Handloading.  I was afraid we would get picked up and moved.

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,209462.new.html#new


22-250
I favor medium to heavy bullets per caliber for deer.  Because of the solid copper contruction of the Barnes it lives under a different rule, but for a copper jacket lead core bullet the 60-grain Nosler PT fits the bill.
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