shockwaves 250 grain. Do not use the easy glide sabots to loose in the barrel. Most XTP's and I put them in an crush rib sabot. I also use the supplied sabot on the xtp's. 240 grainers will rock deer. Gold Dots are another good economical bullet for you to try. PB's tpo me are expensives and I do not like the perforemance, used em' one year and gace them away, I got the uck, good shot but had to track in the dirt as no blood was coming out of the carcass. xtp's blood everywhere.