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« on: June 21, 2010, 06:48:40 PM »
What is it? Bama Bows say some of their bows are fastflight ready.
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2010, 07:12:17 PM »
Where is that on the web page, I'm tired but I just couldn't find where Nate says that.

I gotta get me another one.
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 03:07:33 AM »
http://www.bamabows.com/curly.html Here is one place that it says that and I know I seen it some where else too.
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2010, 03:44:26 AM »
Quote from: kctibs on June 22, 2010, 03:07:33 AM
http://www.bamabows.com/curly.html Here is one place that it says that and I know I seen it some where else too.

FastFlight as in Fast flight bowstrings  ;D
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 03:47:05 AM »
I've always stayed away from fast flight strings.  Sure they add some speed, but they also add noise to the bow.  I use all flemished strings and if you want a good and cheap place to get them check this guy out......

http://cgi.ebay.com/FLEMISH-TWIST-BOW-STRINGS-RECURVE-LONGBOW-/220626159629?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335e58080d
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 03:56:24 AM »
Nate also has bowstrings for his BamaBows http://www.bamabows.com/strings.html and that is the same bowstring that is on my Hunter model.  2-ply Handmade Flemish twist string with black serving.

The most quiet and smoothest longbow I have ever shot.
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 03:51:20 PM »
About 4 years ago I did a chronograph test of fastflight vs. B50 Flemish bowstrings. I used a Fox LB 54lb. the arrows were wooden Split Hex arrows from Bob Burton www.whisperingwindarrows.com they weighed just over 550 grains with 125gr field points. I got an average of 3fps faster arrow speed with the fast flight. I didn't notice any difference in point of impact, but the FF string was just a bit noisier. Today I don't worry whether the bow is FF compatable, if not I'm happy with B50. Hope this helps some or is interesting to some.
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2010, 04:37:33 PM »
That helps as now I know that fastflight is a type of bow string.  I did not know what it was, I don't think that is anything that I am interested in at this time. Thanks for the info.
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2010, 05:08:30 PM »
Aww man! Why you gotta post that bamabow website? Now I want another longbow!
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2010, 07:18:52 PM »
Quote from: squirrellluck on June 22, 2010, 05:08:30 PM
Aww man! Why you gotta post that bamabow website? Now I want another longbow!

www.bamabows.com   www.bamabows.com   www.bamabows.com  ;D
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2010, 02:10:26 AM »
Even though I don't like fastflight strings, I do like bows that are fastflight capable.  The overlays make the tips stronger, Oh and a lot prettier..... ;)
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2010, 04:36:49 PM »
Right, he says that with horn overlays on the tips, the bows are FF compatible.

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Re: fastflight
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2010, 11:28:09 AM »
I like Fastflite because it's less likely to get cut or break.
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2010, 04:01:42 PM »
Quote from: kctibs on June 22, 2010, 04:37:33 PM
That helps as now I know that fastflight is a type of bow string.  I did not know what it was, I don't think that is anything that I am interested in at this time. Thanks for the info.

Glad we could help fast flight is a type of string, it's a low stretch string that won't stretch as much as a B50 string will. Since it doesn't stretch much it delivers more shock to a limb tip upon release. Be sure not to use a fast flight string on a bow not rated for it & if there's any question call the manufacturer.
 I've had B50 strings stretch as much as 2" when they are new, & you will usually have to unstring the bow & twist the string tighter to take up the stretch. I've been known to switch from fast flight to B50 to get a bow a little more quiet. Usually it's not a long bow though, they are usually pretty quiet as is.
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2010, 05:49:06 AM »
My local bow shop owner thinks FF string is for all traditional bows, I explained things to him and he admitted that he really knew nothing about traditional bows and their equipment.

Only order or buy your bow strings from a compitent traditional dealer like 3Rivers or some others that you can find on the Traditional Forum boards.  They know what you need, not something that may harm your bow.
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2010, 07:51:36 AM »
I like the idea of the stronger tips stronger is usually a good thing. As far as using FF strings that will have to come with time. As I get more involved and shoot around some one with FF I will just have to wait to form an opinion.
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2010, 04:47:22 PM »
Quote from: Cottonwood on June 25, 2010, 05:49:06 AM
My local bow shop owner thinks FF string is for all traditional bows, I explained things to him and he admitted that he really knew nothing about traditional bows and their equipment.

Only order or buy your bow strings from a compitent traditional dealer like 3Rivers or some others that you can find on the Traditional Forum boards.  They know what you need, not something that may harm your bow.

You might let your local shop know that a good traditional bow that's not rated for fast flight can be destroyed by using fast flight. The FF string doesn't give when it's released & puts a lot more stress on the bow limbs.
None of the older Bear bows & most others from the 50s to the 70s (roughly) were rated for FF. It there were any doubt on my part I'd use B50 & be happy with it!
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2010, 08:02:28 AM »
Frank even though he admits to knowing nothing about Traditional, I tried to explain that leaving his display model longbows and recurves strung is bad for them.  His response was, "It doesn't seem to hurt the compounds at all." 

He just blows me off, and then when I found a great deal on my Easton Legacy 2020 well below his cost let alone his retail, then talks behind my back wondering why I don't buy my stuff from him.  ::)

He does know his modern compounds, but does not know squat about Traditional Longbows or Recurves.
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Re: fastflight
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2010, 02:15:22 PM »
Quote from: Cottonwood on June 26, 2010, 08:02:28 AM
Frank even though he admits to knowing nothing about Traditional, I tried to explain that leaving his display model longbows and recurves strung is bad for them.  His response was, "It doesn't seem to hurt the compounds at all." 

He just blows me off, and then when I found a great deal on my Easton Legacy 2020 well below his cost let alone his retail, then talks behind my back wondering why I don't buy my stuff from him.  ::)

He does know his modern compounds, but does not know squat about Traditional Longbows or Recurves.

Actually Cottonwood, I asked that very question to Norm Johnson who makes Blacktail bows & he told me as long as the bow isn't in a hot place, & gets shot a couple times each week, you probably risk damaging a fiberglass bow from stringing & unstringing it as much as leaving it strung. I've left glass bows strung for months, shooting them 3 or 4 times/week with no bad effects. Always use a bow stringer to string or unstring a recurve bow. A self bow or non heat treated bamboo bow such as the Howard Hill longbows shouldn't be left strung.
  Ron King of Fox Bows told me much the same thing. Both these bowyers are well respected in the traditional bow industry.
  If you feel better about it though I'd unstring using a stringer.
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