another gulf oil platform explosion

[lakota]

A mere coincidence? I think not.

It is my belief that this administration's end goal is to see EVERYONE huddled into an inner city living in government housing, you see this way we are much more easily controlled than if we are dispersed all over the country side. Blowing up oil rigs and driving the cost of fuel way beyond the reach of the everyday American would go a long way towards accomplishing that goal.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_rig_explosion

[guzzijohn]

Paranoia strikes again.
GuzziJohn

[yellowtail3]

A mere coincidence? I think not.

Well, what do you think? Sabotage? Any speculation on who you think likely to do this?

[lakota]

Paranoia?

 "Since 1975, drilling in the Exclusive Economic Zone (within 200 miles of the U.S. coast) has had a 99.999 percent safety record, according to the Energy Information Administration, which reports that "only .001 percent of the oil produced has been spilled."

99.999% safety record since 1975. And now all of a sudden we have two rigs destroyed within six months of each other?

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Andrew+Cline%3a+Offshore+drilling%27s+amazing+safety+record&articleId=b5f8457e-5ab7-41ba-b05a-a8d53d9a52f0

[lakota]

A mere coincidence? I think not.

Well, what do you think? Sabotage? Any speculation on who you think likely to do this?

Re read my post. I think I made it very clear who I think is behind it-
The leader of the party who wants cap and trade.
The leader of the party that includes members that want to ban the internal combustion engine.

[myronman3]

this reminds me of watching the second plane crash into the 2nd tower.  the first one, i was thinking "was this on accident or on purpose"  and then the second one hits and i had my answer.   
  i wondered why on earth a swat team would be dispatched to the first oil rig explosion.   i mean, what could they possibly do?  now, a second well explodes in the same fashion.    they have been operating those rigs long before i was born, and now all the sudden they are just 'sploding for no reason?   bullspit.     
   someone is attacking us.  who exactly is behind it, i cant say.   but i do believe with the current administrations reluctance to admit that a terror attack is indeed a terror attack; that they would withhold the fact that the first rig was indeed an attack.   

[lakota]

this reminds me of watching the second plane crash into the 2nd tower.  the first one, i was thinking "was this on accident or on purpose"  and then the second one hits and i had my answer.   
  i wondered why on earth a swat team would be dispatched to the first oil rig explosion.   i mean, what could they possibly do?  now, a second well explodes in the same fashion.    they have been operating those rigs long before i was born, and now all the sudden they are just 'sploding for no reason?   bullspit.     
   someone is attacking us.  who exactly is behind it, i cant say.   but i do believe with the current administrations reluctance to admit that a terror attack is indeed a terror attack; that they would withhold the fact that the first rig was indeed an attack.   

I didnt know they sent a swat team out the first time. If that is true it just makes my belief that something fishy is going on all that much stronger.

[billy_56081]

Lakota ya need to understand old yellow aint to observant.

[Pat/Rick]

Coincidence? My gut tells me NO. Eco terorists have for years been sabotaging logging operations by vandalizing equipment, releasing animals from farms and research labs,vandalizing SUV's. Why would somebody not think there was motive behind it?

[yellowtail3]

  i wondered why on earth a swat team would be dispatched to the first oil rig explosion.   i mean, what could they possibly do?  now, a second well explodes in the same fashion.    they have been operating those rigs long before i was born, and now all the sudden they are just 'sploding for no reason?   bullspit.     
   someone is attacking us.  who exactly is behind it, i cant say.   but i do believe with the current administrations reluctance to admit that a terror attack is indeed a terror attack; that they would withhold the fact that the first rig was indeed an attack.   

I didn't know a SWAT team was sent to that rig that blew up a while back. Didn't know there was any kind of investigation, other than to try to pin the breakdown (whatever) on BP or subcontractor. Hmmm...

[jimster]

I would have to agree there is motive. Billions of dollars (ours) flowing (disappearing really) are in question when it comes to cap and trade...a judge over rode the president and administrations wishes on drilling as well, enough motives here to be investigted, prosecutors have looked into many cases with much less motive. Billion of dollars at stake and power is a great motive.

That does not mean I have a clue...or know, or think I know anything, it means if anyone has half a brain, and this administration "allows it", it should be investigated pronto. Simply because corruption is everywhere these days, so you can't trust anyone, or rule anything out. We are at war with our government so to speak...now is not the time to trust them with anything at any time.  After all...they are liars and cheats and crooks with many secrets and many secret government agencies that don't even know what each other is really doing....it's worth checking out just because of those facts.

Paranoid? No...just adding up all the things they have already done and got caught at over the many years and not giving them a pass.
 

[myronman3]

yes, there was indeed a swat team dispatched.  who in the hell would think they would be able to do ANYTHING to help the situation?   it dont add up.

[oldandslow]

First off, you have to realize the oil industry is a very dangerous business. Accidents happen very easily. No way do I think it was anything but an accident.

There is a refinery on the east side of Big Spring, TX. Been there for many years. Explosions and fires are a regular happening there and there have been some deaths over the years. There is a refinery on the east side of Artesia, NM. Same thing happens there. There is a small refinery south of the town I live close to. They have had some accidents over the years. But that is all they are. Accidents.

Nearly everything in the oil industry involves pressure and extreme volatility. It doesn't take much to cause an explosion.

[myronman3]

if that is the case, explain to me how there havent been problems in the gulf until very recently. 

[BBF]

 The Muslims did it!!

[beerbelly]

More like the Muslim, the one in the white house.
                  Beerbelly

[Sourdough]

Oil Rigs have fires on them quite frequently.  Minor explosions as well.  Most do not amount to much, but every once in a while they require evacuation.  In the past no one noticed, they happened but as I said no one noticed, because oil was not released and seldom is anyone hurt. 

At this point the entire nation is paranoid, everyone is noticing.  No spill, contrary to early reports.  The rig was not drilling, workers were just doing maintenance work on the living quarters.

[Oldshooter]

First of all it wasn't a "Rig" it was a production platform. Before the BP thing these things happened very once in a while and no one hears about it. Now We have another "RIG" explosion. proly like all the little one that happen every once in a while on shore as well.   Seems the media loves a good crisis, .............oh I forgot they got that from the administration.

[born-to-hunt]

Why should we even have to worry about things like this? I'm tired of crap going on everywhere and we don't know if it's an innocent accident or purpose to satisfy thier wants but all I do know is it all sucks a lot we should be able to trust our own government to protect us from all this but we can't rely on them like we should be able to.

[Buck-Ridge]

 I have worked in the industry my whole working life. I was on a platform in 1985 that exploded and burned. It didn't cause any pollution and noone was killed so it wasn't news. We had a blowout that was only gas and water 10 years ago. No one was injured and no pollution so it didn't make the news. We have picked up evacuees in a lifeboat from a drilling rig that blew out and burned. 8 years ago no one was hurt again no news. All production platforms with completed wells have safety valves 500 feet below the ocean floor in each well that automatically close if there is a fire on board. Each well also has a series of valves at the wellhead that are also closed in a fire or also from a system upset. These have been standard for years and prevent most pollution when bad things happen.
  The industry does have accidents every year, but the safety has improved dramatically during my career.
The government.MMS or now BOEM looks over and rejects or approves every well that is drilled every facility that is built and even every modification that is made to them. Everything in the industry must meet a standard that is designed to keep people and the environment safe. But people step outside the lines sometimes and accidents happen. I don't believe it is a conspiracy.
 Shortly after 9-11 facilities that produce large amounts of oil and gas have some minor safety precautions that must be followed to minimize the risk of terrorist attacks.

[Oldshooter]

I have worked in the industry my whole working life. I was on a platform in 1985 that exploded and burned. It didn't cause any pollution and noone was killed so it wasn't news. We had a blowout that was only gas and water 10 years ago. No one was injured and no pollution so it didn't make the news. We have picked up evacuees in a lifeboat from a drilling rig that blew out and burned. 8 years ago no one was hurt again no news. All production platforms with completed wells have safety valves 500 feet below the ocean floor in each well that automatically close if there is a fire on board. Each well also has a series of valves at the wellhead that are also closed in a fire or also from a system upset. These have been standard for years and prevent most pollution when bad things happen.
  The industry does have accidents every year, but the safety has improved dramatically during my career.
The government.MMS or now BOEM looks over and rejects or approves every well that is drilled every facility that is built and even every modification that is made to them. Everything in the industry must meet a standard that is designed to keep people and the environment safe. But people step outside the lines sometimes and accidents happen. I don't believe it is a conspiracy.
 Shortly after 9-11 facilities that produce large amounts of oil and gas have some minor safety precautions that must be followed to minimize the risk of terrorist attacks.

Well put, Thank You!

When the BP explosion happened Men were killed and oil was spilled. Some on this site thought it was the end of the world as we know it environmentally. Stuff happens its the human factor ! I was then and now more concerned about the loss of life. Mother Nature cleans her own behind ! Just like the mexican explosion that put oil on the Texas Beaches and the Valdez spill.


  Sometimes its gonna happen its a price we pay to drive , have electricity and gunpowder among other things. That doesn't mean that this administration aint gonna use it to further punish the gulf States for not falling in line with the regime. I'm just glad that there was no loss of life.

I have a Son thats an operator for a major oil company offshore on a production platform. I Pray everyday that he comes home safe and that his job does not become a pawn in the gestapo's political game!

[magooch]

The last I heard was that there was no explosion--just a fire and no oil spill.  Of course this comes from the same media that first reported it as an explosion with an oil sheen.  All we know for sure is that something happened.  So nothing new, just the news media pushing their unreliable panic button.

[Oldshooter]

Yep, turns out that there was a fire, no oil spill and no one injured.  I'm sure thats a big disappointment for thre regime and the media!

[lakota]

Yep, turns out that there was a fire, no oil spill and no one injured.  I'm sure thats a big disappointment for thre regime and the media!

The media is outrageous. The first report I heard stated  that the rig exploded and there was a sheen of oil a mile long and spreading. IMO 24 hour news channels drove the final nail into journalism's coffin thats a lot of time that has to be filled with news. If it were still the old days when the news was only on three times a day, maybe they would have had the facts straight by the dinner time broadcast instead of reporting on it right away and sensationalizing it.