I just bought a Ruger P85. I have to say it is a good example of a 'bug' gun. Big, Ugly, Gun. ha ha. At least Ruger has the reputation of being tough and reliable. I bought this for a 'truck gun', being a Hi-cap 9mm, I think it will be good for that. At just $200 with 3 mags, I don't have to worry about it being hurt bouncing around in the truck. Certainly not the place I'd want to put my engraved Colt 1911! The trigger feels quite nice for a double/single action gun. Anyone have any feedback about how theirs has done? Any info would be appreciated. My gunsmith friend Marshall, says I can run +P or even +P+ all I want to in it. Thanks for replys. 44 Man