Author Topic: Gun Drill .. This you must see! Pretty impressive! (Read 2621 times)

oyvind · « **on:** May 13, 2010, 01:02:24 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32s4qCCFnmk

Soot · « **Reply #1 on:** May 13, 2010, 04:05:10 AM »

That was crazy. They should make Nascar teams do that during the pit stops.

subdjoe · « **Reply #2 on:** May 13, 2010, 06:26:14 AM »

And on a similar theme, The Kings Troop RHA Musical Drive, take special note at about 2:50.

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Kind of gives you an idea of how much room a batter takes up.

xo18thfa · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2010, 07:13:03 AM »

These guys are almost as good as my crews were in 1st Bn, 8th FA

KABAR2 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 13, 2010, 07:46:55 AM »

Thankfully no one will insist on doing this at the artillery shoot in Floyd Va.

we'd have at least one ER visit if not more!

dan610324 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 13, 2010, 07:50:05 AM »

whats ER ??

KABAR2 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 13, 2010, 07:52:17 AM »

ER = Emergency Room...

Cannoneer · « **Reply #7 on:** May 13, 2010, 08:01:09 AM »

Dan,
Sometimes my wife and I will refer to whatever room we happen to be arguing in as "The Emergency Room,"

so I thought I'd further clarify the description: Hospital.

Cannoneer · « **Reply #8 on:** May 13, 2010, 12:10:05 PM »

Thanks, Oyvind: What these crews did in these competitions was truly impressive. You'll notice that in the title of this vid it says 'not the last'. I'm not sure if that's true; the black armbands on these navy men represent this being the last (108th) competition, run in this exact manner. There was a public outcry that wanted the tradition to be carried on, but as far as I know the rough obstacle course part of the event was entirely done away with. The reasons for stopping the competitions had to do with the number, and severity of injuries the crewmen were suffering in practicing for, and while competing in, the real event.

"The "last" Royal Naval Field gun race, FAA versus Portsmouth. Note the black armbands.
108 years have passed, and Ladysmith belongs to the Zulu Kingdom of KwaZulu-Natal. But the feat of the gunners from "Powerful" and "Terrible" has never been forgotten."

"It was the last of the true Command Field Gun Runs at Earls Court.
It can only now be seen as an exhibition run at Pompey but doesn't involve running against Devonport and Fleet Air Arm.
The only other competition involving a gun is Brickwoods Field Gun which doesn't have walls, ramps etc and is held on a car park...nuff said!"

Subdjoe,
Thanks for posting this one, I haven't seen it before, and all I can say is outstanding. The precision displayed by these six horse teams, and their drivers is really something to behold.

subdjoe · « **Reply #9 on:** May 13, 2010, 01:18:12 PM »

Quote from: Boom J on May 13, 2010, 12:10:05 PM

Subdjoe,
Thanks for posting this one, I haven't seen it before, and all I can say is outstanding. The precision displayed by these six horse teams, and their drivers is really something to behold.

My pleasure, Boom J. That driving is indeed impressive, that much speed in such tight quarters. The number of horses needed for just one battery is something I try to get through to people at demonstrations. Often all they see is one or two guns and short crews. No limbers, horses, caissons, etc. The logistics of keeping about 100 horse per battery was a huge problem. Not to mention the opportunities for nasty, dirty jobs for slackers, malingerers, and other petty malefactors.

I was impressed with the relative ease that they were able to flip the gun back over. And that it didn't seem to suffer any from that hard use.

barefiel76 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 13, 2010, 02:58:19 PM »

When I was at Michigan State University, we had a very similar drill when we would sneak a keg to the fourth floor of the dorms using the stairs. I was the muscle so I would be just as out of breath as those guys.

Double D · « **Reply #11 on:** May 13, 2010, 04:25:49 PM »

In SA they have the Swartkop Challenge.

[real=475,325]http://www.swartkopchallenge.com/video/SKCwmv.wmv[/real]

Not Gun drill, just a race dragging a cannon up Wagon hill. You might recognize some of the cannons..

Tigman · « **Reply #12 on:** July 28, 2010, 03:48:59 PM »

Unreal!! When men were men!

BFreiburg · « **Reply #13 on:** July 29, 2010, 11:50:06 AM »

First Post,

Jesus, Mary and Joseph, what a huge effort.

After replaying this video a number of times, I'm still stunned.

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #14 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:05:51 PM »

BFreiburg --

WELCOME to the board!

Most of us do excactly the same thing, only with small scale model cannons.

What do you like to shoot?

armorer77 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 29, 2010, 02:26:38 PM »

Geez, and I thought humping a 60 was bad . Armorer77

JeffG · « **Reply #16 on:** July 30, 2010, 12:03:31 PM »

Just amazing!!

oyvind · « **Reply #17 on:** July 31, 2010, 12:09:27 AM »

Here are some scenes of training.
danger of losing a finger or two.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRY-wiAkpNE&feature=related

subdjoe · « **Reply #18 on:** July 31, 2010, 05:55:34 AM »

Quote from: KABAR2 on May 13, 2010, 07:52:17 AM

ER = Emergency Room...

Or Elizabeth Regina

subdjoe · « **Reply #19 on:** July 31, 2010, 06:15:45 AM »

And we also have The Swartkop Challenge .

Not as flashy, but a 1900 kg gun to pull up that hill?

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Zulu · « **Reply #20 on:** July 31, 2010, 08:09:53 AM »

subdjoe,
We don't get to get a very good look at that gun but 1900 kg is 4180 lbs. That gun doesn't look that heavy. A full scale Napoleon on a #2 carriage doesn't weigh that much.

Zulu

Double D · « **Reply #21 on:** July 31, 2010, 08:23:49 AM »

Go back up thread and click on my link to the Swartkop challenge and you will see the gun is not that heavy-- only1300 KG.

subdjoe · « **Reply #22 on:** July 31, 2010, 10:50:16 AM »

doubled up, sorry

subdjoe · « **Reply #23 on:** July 31, 2010, 10:54:19 AM »

Quote from: subdjoe on July 31, 2010, 10:50:16 AM

Quote from: Double D on July 31, 2010, 08:23:49 AM
Go back up thread and click on my link to the Swartkop challenge and you will see the gun is not that heavy-- only1300 KG.

Ah, two of the articles I saw on the Swartkop said 1900 kg. But if it is "only" 1300 kg, I don't see what the big deal is - two, three people tops, to drag it up that hill.

There used to be a few more of the SC on the web, but all but that Youtube and the one on the SC site seem to be gone now.

Double D · « **Reply #24 on:** July 31, 2010, 02:07:01 PM »

I have been at the bottom of Wagon Hill and the top of Wagon Hill. They say the slope is 1:1 for 130 meters. That is a 45 degree slope I think and I think that hill is steeper than that is steeper than that.

Here is a picture of some of the guns the drug up those hills.

http://www.fototime.com/BE71183F44B149A/orig.jpg

Zulu · « **Reply #25 on:** July 31, 2010, 02:12:51 PM »

Those guns might weigh 2860 lbs. The gun in the previous post probably has only 42" wheels. That size wheel could never support that size barrel. My full scale Parrott rifle had 57" wheels and only weighed about 2000 lbs.
Zulu

BFreiburg · « **Reply #26 on:** August 03, 2010, 01:03:30 PM »

Cat Whisperer,

Thanks for the Welcome.

I liked to shoot, up to this point 12 Ga and 50 cal and smaller for hunting and target practice.
Thought it was time to step up. Found this forum and learning all I can.

BF

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #27 on:** August 04, 2010, 05:46:41 PM »

Quote from: BFreiburg on August 03, 2010, 01:03:30 PM

Cat Whisperer,
Thanks for the Welcome.
I liked to shoot, up to this point 12 Ga and 50 cal and smaller for hunting and target practice.
Thought it was time to step up. Found this forum and learning all I can.
BF

BF - ask questions - you'll get answers. What flavor of cannon/mortars do you like?