Kel-Tec Sub 2000 Carrbine

[cherokee5425]

I have been thinking of purchasing a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 Carbine.  Haven't made my mind up as to which caliber, 9mm or 40 S&W. I have Glock pistols in both calibers and was leaning towards a 9mm being more affordable. Has anyone have any experiance with one of these Carbines? I would appreciate anyone's feed back, Thank you.

[LHitchcox]

My son has one in 9 mm. It shoots well and is a lot of fun to plink with. You will need to find one that takes Glock mags- some are designed for Beretta mags.

Leon

[canon6]

I have one and find it a valuable asset.If you look at the velocities that can be had with the 9mm ,out of a 16inch barrel it is quite a eyeful.
If yo use CorBon for example you can easily top 1500 fps with the  Barnes DPX load.Your accuracy wll be improved,  hth   Doug

[pelican717]

I have had one of these for several years, S&W mags in 9mm. Originally got it to go with my Kel tec p-11. I have since gotten rid of the P-11 and gotten XD's. Amazingly with the addition of an extra slot in the side of the mag I can use the S&W 5900 series mags in my XD. However the XD mags won't go in the Kel Tec because of them being a little thicker.
The Sub 2000 carbine has been a really fun gun. I bought a Beretta Storm in 9mm, thinking I would replace the Sub 2000, but found that , for the money, I couldn't justify getting rid of the KT. Besides it folds in half! It is a little clunky and the front sight is huge, but , again, for the money this thing is a great buy. Plus it is as accurate as my eyes will allow. I can ring the gong at 100 yards 8 out of ten times
So for me it beats the Storm by half the money, just as accurate, folds in half,  but the Storm is way sexier looking!
Just my .02.
Robert

[cherokee5425]

That seems to be what everyone says. I hear alot of Law Enforcement types use the Kel-Tec Carbnie because alot of them can't afford an H&K MP5.  It seems that alot of people share your opinion that you can't beat it for the money. I have been leaning toward the 9mm mainly because the ammo's cheaper and is everywhere. Like I said I have two glock's, a mdl 26 and a mdl 35. I am hoping in the future to get a 9mm replacement barrel for the mdl 35 so I can shoot both out of it.

[2111]

I got one in 9mm to go with my Glock, the folding aspect makes it a great truck or trunk gun when traveling.  I put 1000 wolf rounds, and another 500 reloads through it the first day to see if it would have a problem.  I've owned it for 3+ years and the only malfunction I've had is 1 failure to fire - bad round.  If you don't like the front sight there is a gent that sells one which uses an AR front sight post and has a rail for a light under it ($100).

[Chilachuck]

I have a Sub 9 in 9mm for several years, and it's great. It is the better gun, but it cost more than twice what the Sub 2000 costs.

I just got a Sub 2000 in .40SW and have a few comments.

There's a lot of casting flashing that needs smoothed down. Plan on spending a half hour with a pocket knife rounding stuff off. 

I strongly suggest getting the butt extension from Kel-Tec as it will act as a guide when folding (eh, you'd have to have one in hand to see why). If you don't want to, then open the slot in the back of the front sight so it will catch the detent bolt. You want a broad, shallow "V". You can also file the sides of the detent bolt so it catches the guide slot better.

It needs a bit of work to make it easier to open/close and to improve the trigger, which is a bit nasty. The machine screws holding it together look like they are all 1/4" 8x32. I just replaced the two on the hinge with a couple 1/2" long to see if they will but into each other inside the pivot, Looks good so far, they might just do it. Might need to replace one with a cut down 3/4" screw or drop some trash between them to hold them just a tiny bit further apart.

Getting to the trigger is a bit of work. Go to KTOG for information on getting to it, there's tricks to putting the rifle back together or it will drive you nuts:

http://www.ktog.org/

The manufacturer's web site is:

http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/

The web site without the "cnc" in the URL is one of those parasitic sites that makes money on people making mistakes.

There's several other groups and sites dedicated to the Sub 9 and Sub 2000, worth visiting to see what they have to say.

[TRWalker]

I'd recommend one in whatever caliber you normally carry a handgun. I own one in 9mm.  Whenever I travel, it goes along  folded in my briefcase with a loaded  16 round Glock magazine in the grip and two loaded 33 round magazines beside it.  My glock M17 also fits nicely in the briefcase as well.  The 9mm carbine  shoots good and is very reliable.  I like the 9mm because ammo is cheap and available everywhere and because the Glock 33 round mags give you great firepower. These carbines are good buys for the money and lots of fun to shoot.

[danza]

i'd like to have the sub 2000 in 9mm but it's illegal here in the republik of california...

i think too many folks sell the 9x19mm short  ; especially when it's fired from a carbine length tube. it's not to be sold short or underestimated...

i have the ruger P9 and a P95DC auto-loader as 'companions'; they share magazines* and ammo. a hard combination to beat.

i'd like to see kel tec or another company market an affordable .45acp carbine, too.

*an interesting side note: springfiled armory XD-9 subcompact magazines will fit the ruger P9 carbine and function correctly when it is slotted correctly.

[JayAK]

I have the Sub2K in the G17 grip.... It is a great shooter!

[handlebar]

I have one in the Beretta configuration. Shoots great and has never given me a problem.

[leserz]

i just bought a S2K in .40. havent got a chance to shoot it yet. in the possess of moving now so it will be a week or two yet. mine uses glock 22 mags

[Jimbo47]

I'm going with a 9 MM so post up a review after you shoot yours, and I'll do the same when I get mine!

[Flynmoose]

I have had a Sub 2000 for a few years. It is alot of fun and pretty accurate,
even with my aging eyes. Mine takes Glock mags and, in my experience, the
factory mags are the way to go. I had one brandX mag and it was a jam-o-matic.
Again, it is fun and it really moves a 9mm out  fast!

[Jimbo47]

I'm going with a 9 MM so post up a review after you shoot yours, and I'll do the same when I get mine!

Picked mine up yesterday in 9MM with the Glock 17 mag. and I'm really impressed with the way the gun feels and handles.  It's not heavy by any means, but it has enough heft to it that you know your not holding a toy!

I took it out today when I went to the ranch and it fits like dream between my seat and console of my Grand Cherokee, and is perfect as a companion driving around the ranch roads, so it has found a home.

I only fired it a few times as there were cattle in the area, but it is very accurate, and I can't wait to get it on the range and wring it out to see what she does!

[Merle]

I'd recommend one in whatever caliber you normally carry a handgun. I own one in 9mm.  Whenever I travel, it goes along  folded in my briefcase with a loaded  16 round Glock magazine in the grip and two loaded 33 round magazines beside it.  My glock M17 also fits nicely in the briefcase as well.  The 9mm carbine  shoots good and is very reliable.  I like the 9mm because ammo is cheap and available everywhere and because the Glock 33 round mags give you great firepower. These carbines are good buys for the money and lots of fun to shoot.

I have heard that some guns with the Glock mags will sometimes drop the 33 rounds mags.
Something about them being a bit too heavy for the magazine latch, etc.
Do you have any knowledge about this?

I am considering a Glock set-up, so this subject is of interest to me.

Thanks