If anyone has seen alot of my other posts i've been working with a 700 VTR in 308. I finally finished and have gotten myself a good shooter. I had to work with loads as usual with most guns and found some good loads and ended up have to change out the stock due it flexing and wasn't free floating the barrel. I bought a Bell and Carlson light tactical and all the other loads that I was having trouble with brought them all down to 1 moa or better and all my good 168gr loads down to a honest .3 moa gun. Like I said with my 168gr.s for some reason it won't shoot 165's any where near as good.