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Saving the planet
« on: August 11, 2010, 10:27:09 AM »
Interesting Email I received today



Are you sitting down? Okay, here's the bombshell. The current volcanic eruption going on in Iceland, since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet - all of you.

Of course you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress - it's that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all animal life.

I know, I know.... (group hug)...it's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of: driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kid's "The Green Revolution" science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home instead of Bali, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your $1 light bulbs with $10 light bulbs ...well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the tubes in just four days.

The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days - yes - FOUR DAYS ONLY by that volcano in Iceland, has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud any one time - EVERY DAY.

Oh, I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in its entire YEARS on earth. Yes folks, Mt Pinatubo was active for over one year - think about it.

Of course I shouldn't spoil this touchy-feely tree-hugging moment and mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized 800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keep happening, despite our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change.

I'm so sorry. And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud but the fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.

Just remember that your government just tried to impose a whopping carbon tax on you on the basis of the bogus "human-caused" climate change scenario.

Hey, isn't it interesting how they don't mention "Global Warming" any more, but just "Climate Change" - you know why? It's because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past century and these global warming bull artists got caught with their pants down.

And just keep in mind that if that same government is re-elected, you will have an Emissions Trading Scheme - that whopping new tax - imposed on you, that will achieve absolutely nothing except make you poorer. It won't stop any volcanoes from erupting, that's for sure.

But hey, grab a Coke, give the world a hug and have a nice day!

PS: I wonder if Iceland is buying carbon offsets?

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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2010, 10:51:27 AM »
Sad isn't it? By the greenies calculations eurasia should be a desolate wasteland. All those years of habitation, tisk tisk tisk.

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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2010, 10:56:18 AM »
The Prius you just bought-  manufacturing of the "green" parts created  more pollutants and toxic waste than the car will ever save, just not here in the USA.  Gore's carbon credits program where he wants to sell credits, they are just leases and other fuel supplies he bought to sell and make himself richer. Does SCAM mean anything to you, how about the term sheeple.

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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2010, 11:04:31 AM »
Total unadulterated BS! But who care, it sounds good!


http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/apr/21/iceland-volcano-climate-sceptics

Iceland volcano gives warming world chance to debunk climate sceptic mythsClimate sceptics' favourite theory that volcanoes produce more CO2 than human activity has exploded in their faces with Eyjafjallajokull eruption

Iceland's Eyjafjoell volcano is emitting between 150,000 and 300,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide (CO2) per day, a figure placing it in the same emissions league as a small-to-medium European economy, experts said on Monday.

Assuming the composition of gas to be the same as in an earlier eruption on an adjacent volcano, "the CO2 flux of Eyjafjoell would be 150,000 tonnes per day," Colin Macpherson, an Earth scientist at Britain's University of Durham, said in an email.

Patrick Allard of the Paris Institute for Global Physics (IPGP) gave what he described as a "top-range" estimate of 300,000 tonnes per day.

Both insisted that these were only approximate estimates.

Extrapolated over a year, the emissions would place the volcano 47th to 75th in the world table of emitters on a country-by-country basis, according to a database at the World Resources Institute (WRI), which tracks environment and sustainable development.

A 47th ranking would place it above Austria, Belarus, Portugal, Ireland, Finland, Bulgaria, Sweden, Denmark and Switzerland, according to this list, which relates to 2005.

Experts stressed that the volcano contributed just a tiny amount – less than a third of one percentage point – of global emissions of greenhouse gases.
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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2010, 11:33:29 AM »
Looks like an "Inconveinient Truth" to me. It amazes me that people still believe in man caused globle warming and that apocalyptic, end of the world lie. People refuse to believe the Bible, but have no problem buying into this cheap science fiction movie type scenario. It's not about warming for pete's sake! It's about government control and power. But some people choose to believe the lie anyway. Using that lie people like Gore, Immelt, and Soros get richer. The present administration uses it to progress their agenda of Cap and Tax to tear down America and rebuild,(fundamentaly tramsform), it into a socialist/communist, failed state. Talk about lemmings. Wake the heck up!!   
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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2010, 11:39:45 AM »
Those that want to believe in global warming, do so for political reasons, not green. It is just another scam to redistribute the wealth.
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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2010, 11:47:48 AM »
Thanks crusta.  It's always good to take emails like these with a grain of salt until verification comes in.

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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2010, 01:03:48 PM »
Yeh, like the tailpipe on my truck puts out more Co2 than a volcano.....Sure, okay, duh.....yeh okay

There's just no hope for some people.........  ???
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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2010, 04:19:00 PM »
I just can't understand why it's such a big deal, even IF people are causing global warming, since we're gonna run out of gas soon anyways.  Sure, there are other ways to pollute, and petro-chemicals can be synthesized (we'll get better at it when we have to), but really it's gonna get hard for us to keep it up in a few years.

Also when I was stationed in california I always wondered why those freaks were still able to go to the beach (and the entirety of the city of san diego) since the coastline was supposed to be going up all the time.  I do not recall seeing buildings popping up out of the water at low tide.... and I'm pretty sure people have been building on the water's edge since before I was born (1984).

blah, blah, hate liberals and democrats.   :D

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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2010, 05:21:43 PM »
What is truely saddens me is the fact that so many consider it ok that we are polluting our earth as bad as we are. We a gentically and chemically damaging not only ourselves but our children. As outdoorsmen, we should be the ones leading the fight for natural preservation. Make no mistake, if it was up to me, there wouldn't be gas boat motors, ATVs running the rivers and the woods. new homes would only occur after the rundown homes and subdivisions were restored. Any tree cut down should be replaced by 3.

I am a conservationist, and a hunter. We are a organic family farmette , we recycle and do everything to minimize our carbon footprint.We dont live in town and we rarely have anyone here except for opening day of deer hunting; I am embarassed by the litter that we clean up in the public hunting grounds after deer season. I am shocked at the decaying and injured deer that are left once the weekend gun owners (I don't consider them hunters) are done blazing away at the deer. Its no wonder why we get a bad rap with non hunters.

I am ashamed with the fact that so many individuals consider just shooting everything that they don't agree with. We can't continue to live as we are, and maybe the human race should go away....JMO
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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2010, 05:50:12 PM »
do you recycle toilet paper after you use it?  make any lampshades with it (paper mache') or do you flush it like the rest of us?


how about the coal that was probably burned for the electricity you used for running your computer while you typed up your post?  did you go and beg the people at the plant for the charcoal to use for purifying water at home?  I bet you use it out of the tap.  I bet you're full of crap.  I bet you're a closet liberal.

seriously, talking about how people "..shoot everything that they don't agree with...".  you should be ashamed, of yourself.

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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2010, 06:40:10 PM »
As I said we try to LIMIT our carbon footprint. We use toliet paper just like you. we use electricty just like you and yep we use the saver blubs. We grow most of our own food, and no we don't use traditional fertilizer. We use chicken manure. We don't use chemicals on our plants. We grow our own meat. Last year we raised 100 chickens, and no we don't vaccinate them. We have a 16x20 porta pen for free ranging chickens, they fertlize the grass, eat the bugs, and keep the grass mowed down, move it every couple of days and the ground is in better shape than any store bought fertilizer that you can find.

As far as people shooting things they don't agree with.  I would invite you to talk with anyone that works with animal rescue and ask them about animals that they have seen. I know we do the volunteer work. I also guarantee that I cleaned more deer last year than you. Not only do we eat the meat, but items such as hides are donated to the boy scouts, and deer organs and damaged meat are used to feed rehabitated wildlife that are living within the rescue community.

As far as being a liberal- I am as pro american as they get but I also do not agree with our goverment on just about every level. From our county board to the white house.  If I was given a choice between humans and wildlife, my neighbors would have 4 legs.
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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2010, 08:10:50 PM »
.  If I was given a choice between humans and wildlife, my neighbors would have 4 legs.



Yea! But they would still have you to worry about, skulking around on two legs ;D
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2010, 08:19:43 PM »
I am all for ethical living and lifestyle. Something wrong with you if you aren't. But worshiping the creation instead of the Creator is another thing all together. Placing more value on nature than on human life is twisted. I applaud your lifestyle choice but not your world view. There is a definite need to keep industry and such in check to some degree as they will not be ethical on their own. But lets face it, not everyone can live as you do. It's not possible. This is real life, not Dances With Wolves. I have what I consider a healthy love of nature and wildlife. After all they are the gift of God to mankind. So are the natural resources a gift to make mans life better. Without them we could not cure disease and so many other things that make life better for all. We cannot legislate morality or ethics. We try to but fail. It is fallen mans sinful nature. That can't be legislated away by government if for no other reason because government is formed and controlled by fallen mankind. I don't like unethical shooters and polluters either. But it doesn't make me fall for a phony man caused globle warming scam by the government to bring myself under complete control and take away my freedoms. If man does not recognize and believe in God then he sets himself up as a god proclaiming his own perceived wisdom to be superior and tries to rule over the inferior masses. The masses either follow like the blind leading the blind,(who both fall in the ditch), or in their minds they become a god unto themselves and think they know it all and whats best for everyone else. There should be balance in everything, but the gods unto themselves always try to tip the scales  in THEIR OWN direction. If human beings were to,"go away", there would be no earth. It was created for us not the wildlife.
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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2010, 11:23:52 PM »
I live life the way I want.  What is comfortable for me.  I drive a big one ton truck, I burn wood in my fire place, some times coal.  I burn coal in the stoves in my two cabins, easier to get than wood.  If anyone does not like it come to the cabin and complain.  Know what a "One way hike in Grizzly country means"?

Had a woman visiting from the lower 48, came to a lunchion in Fairbanks earlier this summer.  She started spouting off about our coal burning power plants, and the fact we were burning wood to heat our homes.  She really started getting uppaty with some of the men, saying they should be prosacuted for what they were doing to the Planet.  Then she started making statements about how someone should contact the EPA.  Someone ask her if she knew what the bottom of a Glacial Cravasse looked like.  She looked around at all the big burly looking men standing around her, not sure who had said it, turned pale, and left the lunchion.

Alaska is on the Pacific Ring Of Fire, we have hundreds of volcanos.  There is one or two (sometimes more) spewing all the time.  We have Millions of acres of Black Spruce burn every summer.  So do you think I am one little bit concerned about the emmisions put out by my fireplace, or my F-350?  Naaaaaaa!
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Re: Saving the planet
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2010, 04:41:25 AM »
Better watch out Sourdough! The little green people are probably tracking your, "carbon footprints", right to your front door as we speak!  You dasturdly planet killer you!   :o
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