Shall we start a new conspiracy theory?

[subdjoe]

After all, that plane crash in AK seems awfully convenient, doesn't it? 

The senator that was hounded out of office because a false conviction, which was thrown out after the election, killed.  The former head of NASA, critical of the brand new NASA mission statement of outreach to Muslims, almost killed? 

I'm sure we could spin something about the Blago Boys trying to get rid of loose ends.

[Dee]

I agree subdjoe. There's something rotten in Demark!

[spikehorn]

Elvis shot JFK from a UFO

[powderman]

The Jews did it with Bushs help. POWDERMAN. 

[subdjoe]

Elvis shot JFK from a UFO

And Jimmy Hoffa was the wheelman.

[Dand]

Truth is the weather here has been really crummy, cielings up and down, LOTS of rain, wind off and on and lately a lot of fog. Today I was surprised anything was flying it was so foggy. Yesterday wasn't much better. Its been crummy nearly all summer.

My fear is people were too eager to get Ted out fishing on a day when he should have fished in front of the lodge. When I was involved with the fisheries around here I always knew when Ted was in the area.  People would get a little crazy either trying to impress him or argue with him. I'd get goofy phone calls asking me to referee various squabbles that broke out on the river where-ever he was fishing. Never heard boo from him or his people tho and I never met him on the water.

Sure a sad and anxious day around here. Every time we hear of plane crashes close by, people we know are somehow involved. As well as the victims, there is concern for all the rescuers in this bad weather - always the risk of more people getting hurt in the effort. So every time is a family event in a manner of speaking.  What a grim night for all of them at the wreck site.

It is a terrible tragedy. While I liked Ted, at 86 he had a very full life and was doing what he loved. My condolences to his family. I'm more saddened for the 16 yr girl who will never have the chance, and her mother. And the pilot's daughter who just lost her husband to another crash 2 wks ago.

Yesterday my wife helped get a bunch of kids flown up to a village for a special guiding school this week; this reminds us how perilous this country can be. We were surprised the planes were flying at all. Today there was a flurry of phone calls from concerned family making sure their kids, husbands, friends weren't the ones in the crash.

[spikehorn]

Doesn't Alaska have the highest number of small aircraft crashes per year? If so this tells me that either alot of people who are dangerous to this country or industry live in Alaska, or it is a very dangerous enviroment to fly in!

[spikehorn]

WOW! all I can say about that is "just because you are paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get you"

[Dand]

Maybe that Sorcha person's brain has been HAARPed?  Whew what loony stuff!

I understand that C-17 crashed very shortly after take-off. I'm wondering about bird strikes.
Note in Sitka 2 Alaska Airlines jets hit eagles in the last week. One had its engine disabled.

Here is a link to a web cam that shows Lake Aleknagik. The lodge in question is roughly located to the right and behind the last mountain slightly left of the center background.  From the sketchy reports I'm not clear where the crash site is. http://www.nushtel.com/weather/Lake/current.jpg

Here are some views of the Dillingham harbor area. My check shows lots of fog.
http://www.dillinghamdps.us/community_camera.html
and our airport more fog:
http://akweathercams.faa.gov/viewsite.php

Weather today is slightly better - ceilings are a little higher, but still windy foggy, intermittent rain.

TM7 look up the Anchorage Daily News online and they have lots of details and some photos of the plane and crash site.

Spike: Regarding the numerous plane crashes in AK:  We have very very few roads and 100's mile of country, so most travel is by air. We have many Air Taxi's - smaller 1 and 2 engine planes carrying 4 to 10 people. On a nice day I'd say I have planes going over my house from 8:30 am to 9 or 10 at night - I'm on the approach path. We have more planes and pilots per capita than anywhere else in the world and with all that comes the increased probabilities for accidents. Real quick I can think of 10 friends and acquaintances who are pilots and have planes.

In a possibly ironically timed post, our local Catholic priest and pilot wrote an article about his rules for flying around here. Note he says he had waited 12 days for suitable flying weather. All that time many lodges and air taxis were flying nearly every day.
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/blogs/bush-pilot/6308-father-scotts-vfr-rules

His photos show the general area I hunt in each fall. Had hoped to take the boys up fishing right there but weather has just been the pits all summer. And king salmon fishing was closed by emergency order 'cause of a poor run.

[Pat/Rick]

After my son had been stationed in Faibanks for awhile,(Eilson AFB) I asked him if he was close to the HAARP Installation. His reply was "HAARP doesn't exist" (wink,smile,shrug).  You think the AF would fess up. Must be they don't want to upset the good people.

 Always a sad day when folks die violently, when a day or two more of fishing could've prevented it.

[Dand]

TM7 - I sure don't know a thing about any HAARP sites out here. There are several VHF, cell and microwave repeater installations in the area for radio and cell coverage. I'd sure be interested in any verifiable info on HAARP.  I used to fly all over this country and there wasn't a lot out there. Now GCI is busy bringing cell service to the area and there's more stuff on a few hill tops. Mostly on Kemuk Mt. I helped pull a dead chopper pilot off that mt after he caught is rotor on take-off. Wasn't much up there then (approx 1998??). Now if GCI is covertly installing something other than cell service, let the conspiracy theories begin. They certainly have a huge facility at the head of the Agulowak R. I mostly marvel that most likely tax payers and their cell clients pay for the grandiose lodge. Much of the lodge used to be a private for profit lodge that charged $5,000 to $6500 per person per week.  But I think the for profit part collapsed. The manager got busted for hanging with a Montana biker gang among other things. 

But I side-track.

I'll need a lot of convincing to believe there is any HAARP activity around here.  King Salmon maybe as there is a mothballed forward Air Base there but activity is quite low, all civilian care takers there now. And part of it has been converted to a vocational school.

Now up at a communications site Sparrevon has always been pretty secret. But mostly it was used as a hunting lodge for military.  Galena is a mothballed base too but its a long way off.

Remember to check the scales on any Alaska maps. From Dillingham to Anchorage is about 350 miles. People look at AK maps and often don't realize just how big the distances are; what might appear to be 20-50 miles for someone used to looking at lower 48 maps could easily be 200-400 miles here.

[powderman]

SUBJOE. Ya happy now?? You should know better to mention the word conspiracy around tm, if their aint one, he'll invent one. POWDERMAN. 

[saddlebum]

And to think this thread started out as a joke!.......well maybe it still is   

[Dand]

yep appears to be very much a joke. But I attempted to redirect it to real info in case some were interested. Living here in Dillingham, the town is pretty riveted on the topic.

[saddlebum]

I have made my decision after much thought and study,( in the dictionary).
Dustified is not a real word.   

[Dand]

Yeah the joke is hysterical. That HAARP station in interior Alaska is at least 500 if not 600+ miles from where Stevens crashed. There are NO large power supplies in the general area of SW Alaska.  We're all frantically trying to figure out how to afford our diesel powered electrical systems at extremely high fuel prices. We're building windmills and drilling for geothermal power.  But right now our power systems are small and barely able to support our communities.  Galena has looked into nuclear power but hasn't made any forward movement on it. So good luck explaining where the other 5-6 HAAPP sites are. We fly all over this country.  If there were more of those strange antenna set ups we'd know about it. And we'd want the power for our communities. I think I'm done wasting time on this stuff.

[Hickok]

Bigfoot species is severely threatened by global warming. Goverment funds being set aside to supply hair cutting equipment. "This may be the most severe threat ever encountered by the Bigfoot in its fight for survival, and it is all due to global warming!" said an unnamed scource close to Al Gore.

"We cannot correct global warming over night, but we can trim the hair on the elusive animals known as Bigfoot, in hopes that they can cope with the increase of rising temperatures." stated the above scource. "Crewcut, flattop, high and tight, or even a short mohawk, regardless, the long hair has to go, or this species will not be around for our children's children to see and enjoy!"

[saddlebum]

Hickok, your weird!  But I like it!!   

[Hickok]

Hickok, your weird!  But I like it!!   

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