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Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« on: September 08, 2010, 11:12:02 AM »
Here is a link to the hotly debated 'nose in-nose out' video, which has been removed by all news sources from the www    ....    except here in this analysis .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5-xcvv_fRQ&p=02330024F0FA4A22&index=1

Your opinion...what say you?


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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2010, 11:28:53 AM »
not an expert on pictures or noses so won't guess. But my nephew was in a building a few blocks away . He won't talk about it alot but said he was high enough to see it happen. When the first plane hit he heard it then felt a shock wave hit the building he was in. He along with everyone else went to the window to see. They thought it was an accident. Then some yells there is another plane and all watched it hit the building . Then he went home to get out of the building as he was instructed. He was lucky he missed most of the dust .
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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2010, 08:22:59 AM »
no it would be moving at a bit over1/10 of a mile per second if the plane was doing 400 mph. Now I don't know about you but seeing something as large as a plane going 400 mph is little problem. Like I said most in his office saw the second plane hit as they were looking .
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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2010, 11:22:41 AM »
Guess they exceeded the normal 400 mph no big deal my fault for assuming they had not changed speed.  Guess also you and them missed the part about being on top floors of buildings with an open view but whats new ? never cloud an issue with facts right ?
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2010, 03:51:36 AM »
My link was my nephew . Like I said he dosen't like to talk about it . I see this in many who wittness death such as this. Maybe if there had been a trailor park near by there would have been more eye wittnesses aval. for interview !
 But in case you are right - if a govt. is able to pull off such a crime , should you be fooling with it ? They might hurt you .
 I have seen the pictures and it looks like nothing more than a shock wave from the plane going out the other side.
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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2010, 07:29:48 AM »
Sometimes it is hard to tell BS from discovery .
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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2010, 07:36:45 AM »
knowing how a hard bullet deforms when it strikes something, even soft things. I find it hard to believe a hollow, thin skinned plane could go through a building and exit in the same shape. With the concrete steel construction the plane had to cut through it just dont seem plausable.
This poster is not an expert in planes, speed, construction etc. but I have been around.

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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2010, 07:40:32 AM »
If you have been around then you have seen hollow wheat straws go thru. a fence post ?
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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2010, 11:27:10 AM »
Never laid my hand on a straw in a fence post but have seen pictures of it. I believe that is possible.
I have never seen a straw in a concrete post or steel column even in pictures. Quite a bit of difference in material.
If you got a car up to 800 mph and hit the building with it, would it exit and look the same? They dont seem to do to well at slower speeds.

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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2010, 02:00:16 PM »
I can't see that it matter.
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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2010, 03:02:28 AM »
Guess it depends on dia. of post as to it going thru.  :D
And If you read back ya might notice i see the "stuff" comming out the far side of the building as a shock wave not a plane nose. As for steel and concrete - well it is a col. , beam and floor not a solid chunk of any of it . I would guess there are places where there are holes all the way thru. the building . The floors are how thick ? 3-4 inches and apart 12-14 feet ? col's 10-15 feet apart and beams at just below floors . In other places most likely nothing much to slow a plane down. As for joining those org. nope nore will i join the tin foil hat club either .
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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2010, 08:13:16 AM »
I too made my living in construction but I dont know anything about, what can/what cant in a situation like this.
It is my understanding from a pbs documentary that the building was built different than the ususual steel columns spaced throughout the dimentions of the building. That it was built with the walls being the structure's support. The columns on the building perimeter were the supports, with the internal structure almost column free.
If that is the case the walls would be substantial.
Im not saying that is, "plane" exiting the building. It may be "stuff" but am saying if it is plane. It has hit the weakest building in NYC or it is the toughtest plane ever in NYC.
In the 1940's a bomber flew into the empire state building. I forget which floor it hit. It was, I believe above half way. The bomber was in pieces and did not exit.  If I am not mistaken, but sure could be. The plane was removed with the elevator.   

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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2010, 04:49:23 AM »
TM7, So who do you believe set the charges ? Why ?
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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2010, 10:01:14 AM »

I agree there seems to be a problem with the video and to me there is much more than meets the current story.  Not being an expert or having the technology to refute it, that is as far as I can go. I do know that most of the time, good knowledgeable men point out the discrepancy of these events. Not some off the wall nut case as we are led to believe. Though they do get involved and muddle up the scene.
Shootall, the questions who, why, how and when are good ones. If they are answered through diligent , honest research, gaps in our understanding of an event or situation are filled.  The weakness to this approach, is that we may have to except an answer outside of what we are comfortable with. 
The number one reason we are not willing to research is because we must start outside the norm. Our minds want let us think “anyone or anything” is big enough, smart enough or have an allegiance (u.n.) strong enough to pull it off. 
The majority of people are good, therefore they think like good people.  They are involved with daily life, raising families, service to others etc. It is hard for them to think other than, generally good. 
There is a group, that comes from the majority, that are evil, manipulative, and obsessed with greed and power. They make it to the top because there is nothing they will not do to get there. Those of like mind recognize them and help pull them up. Their thinking is based on that which is evil. In order to gain more they use the majority, pawns, to do as they will to achieve their end means. It is the majority that will work (taxes) for them, suffer (wars) for them, bend (oppressive laws) to them and even support (threat to sovereignty and family) them.
Sometimes new oppressive laws or the conquering of new lands  are needed to further the interest of the evil doers.
Evil doers have learned through thousands of years of controlling man how this is done and how man will react.
If it is on our soil and we have an enemy, we give them our full support (when buildings fall and many die) including blood because we seek to do good and we have families.
Most of you were taught what I have said here in school. It is in every history book. Look to any civilization throughout history and you will see it. All that remains of most is partial stone walls and the graves of many. Their destruction was caused by what many called conspiracies. The few that sounded the warning were ignored and the rest as they say is history.
What we want to ignore is the fact that the same being (satan) has presided over the destruction of every nation on earth throughout history. satan and his followers know what to do.

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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2010, 07:33:35 AM »
The president of The United states can't fool around  but a job like this can be pulled off ? I know there are evil people in America and don't buy the we don't look in the right direction. 
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2010, 05:14:02 AM »
Ok , Like I said I know someone who saw the 2nd plane hit the building and stuff from the first hit comming by his building. Lets forget that as you claim . Then how does one get the people involved to not talk ? How do we get a plane full of folks to crash it in Pa. ? How if none were killed do we keep them from talking ? People always talk . Someone had to set charges and some one sold the stuff and someone saw it . someone would talk.
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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2010, 06:36:28 AM »
I don't know the name of the building but it is the one the back up for the stock ehchange is located in the basement maybe S&P's building . It is only a few blocks away and if my memory is working he was on one of the top floors . He had a great view . And it was a plane . As for tracking the people on the floor heard the first crash and felt the shock wave. Then saw stuff ( dust , paper etc.) comming by . Others have stated this also. Some said look at that plane and they watched it hit the building . Nothing more His building was first evacuated then went to lock down then evacuated again . He had to walk 50-60 blocks to get home . I have seen interviews of the wife whos husban said "lets roll" along with others . So what has happened to the 65 arrested ? I really don't know all the ansewers , only shared the one thing I believe to be true the account from my nephew . I find it hard to believe that so much could be covered up not because i want to believe most are good but because it would be some are bad and would spill the beans. I am no expert on that building but from what i have seen in building in general and what was shown on TV about this one I could see a shock wave pushing thru a building . What I would like addressed is how the building fell so stright . The smoke and dust was showing a good wind and buildings are influnced by wind , even on the roof of a 25 story building you feel movement. How did they fall so stright down ? Are they constructed to fall into them selves ? There are many theories out there I don't care to do the knee jerk thing. It would be better to get all the facts aval. first. With the tea party movement putting the fear in those who govern maybe some ansewers will be forth comming .
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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2010, 07:52:50 AM »
I stood in front of the capital building in DC on Sept of last year. I looked toward the Washington Monument one mile away and all I could see were people. They filled the back streets, side streets and everywhere in between. No doubt 2 million + were there.
while standing there someone had a radio on so they could hear what was being said about the event. Silence just silence. Then I think it was someone associated with cnn came on and said there was about 1000 right wing radicals in washington.
Now if you remember the silence and outright lies of the news media made the event, the most people to ever assemble in one place in the history of the nation, insignificant.
Ask those around you how many people were there and you will hear about 50,000. A big part of the country was fooled and for all I know you may think there was just a few also.
This was openly done with TV's in every home and they hid it to the world of the blind. Would you call this a conspiricy?

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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2010, 10:01:48 AM »
I call it a crime !
Is that not why we gather here ? And the reason for the tea party ? Some here go off on TM7 but in reality he brings forth the truth from those who oppose him when they offer rebuttal.
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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2010, 10:46:40 AM »
Planes were made mostly of aluminum.  The building did have windows and a thin concrete veneer attached.  Heat from the fully fueled planes was hot enough to melt the aluminum and weaken the steel thus causing the buildings to fall like a stack of dominoes.  Makes perfect sense to me.  Lead bullets at speed will penetrate harder steel plate, so no problem seeing a speeding plane penetrate some of the steel and concrete veneer, causing the plane to crush and melt from the burning fuel.  I watched on TV the buildings fall from where the planes hit above into the lower part and thus crumble, makes sense to me.  The people in the planes have families who were on them.  So if the planes were government planes, and no real passengers where on them, where did the people disappear to?  What do their families know that we don't?  This is way to big for a government conspiracy.  If there is one, it is them knowing it was going to happen, and not stopping it. 

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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2011, 06:38:06 AM »
I need to go buy aluminum foil
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Re: Digital video experts...you opinion on 'nose in-nose out'
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2011, 09:49:58 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9LURV-joLI&feature=autoplay&list=PL02330024F0FA4A22&index=4&playnext=3

After watching the posted nose in/out link, I let youtube run and this "footage" came up. I thought it thought provocing to say the least. I am not wanting to appear as someone who is suggesting that anybody should believe any one way or the other, I thought this clip interesting and worthy of scrutiny.  There may be alot never to be revealed. I do know that enough has been presented to me, to affirm what I thought from the start. That is, who is responsible for this attack. I have never been sure of my answer either way.