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.338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« on: September 05, 2010, 07:28:17 AM »
I noticed that the .338 Lapua cartridge is becoming popular for the military sniper listings, as well as the .300 magnum over the old .308 as an option.  I got to shoot a fellow gun club member's bolt action rifle in .338 Lapua, seems fine to me.

When I was checking the price of ammo the .338 Lapua is around $125.00 for a box of 20! ???.  The listing for the .338 Winchester magnum is only around $50.00, if the .338 Lapua is not an exotic African big game round, why is it so expensive?

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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2010, 11:37:08 AM »
Supply and Demand. There are just simply less 338 Lapua's out there. Tooling up to produce them cost the company the same so it take more $ per 20 rounds to recover that cost.

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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2010, 06:24:13 PM »
Chris...Im with you.  I can't understand why a 338 Lapua round costs $6 a pop.  The brass alone is $2 ea expensive, but allows some savings for the reloader, then about 100 grains of powder for each round and you can see, you only get 70 rounds out of a pound of powder... top it off with a premium bullet and its getting spendy.

I am hoping that the round gets more popular with the military, I would really like to pick up some mil. surplus 338 Lapua rounds or brass.  To me, it is purely a big game round, elk and up in size so I don't see putting 1000's of rounds through it. 

It is a hoot to shoot...now if only the prices would come down.

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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 05:55:10 AM »
I presume it is a proprietary round and only one place makes ammo and brass for it.
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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 04:40:57 AM »
I presume it is a proprietary round and only one place makes ammo and brass for it.
In USA, Hornady and Black Hills make it. In Europe, Lapua makes it, and probably others.

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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 05:07:39 AM »
Well................. so much for that theory!
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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 05:58:58 AM »
The round is still pretty new and there aren't many people making the brass.  They aren't setup to produce huge quantities of this brass like they are on most calibers and since they're aren't many people making the brass there isn't much if any competition.  Lapua brass is always more expensive because it's supposed to be better quality.  The best deal I've seen on 338 Lapua brass is once fired stuff on gunbroker for abuot $1 a piece.

The majority of the bullets in 338 lapua loads are going to be match bullets made for distance.  Those are always going to be more expensive than regular old soft point bullets especially in 338.

I once had a 300RUM and it took a lot of powder but still not as much as the 338 lapua.  Empties out a 1# can pretty quick.  A guy at the range has one and with his reloads he's still over $2 per round.

It's a tempting caliber when you look at the charts and read the energy at distance, but for target shooting it won't do anything a 308 can't do inside 1000 yards. 

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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 02:55:51 PM »
I worked up a load for a friends 338 Lapua.  This was about 5 years ago and even then it was high to reload for it.  I am not a big magnum fan but after shooting it for several weeks to develop a load I fell in love with it.  For a sniper round I think it would be very hard to beat.
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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2010, 06:47:46 AM »
It will be interesting to see how this cartridge fares in the future.  When I shot it the owner of the rifle was telling people about how destructive the muzzle blast could be, I was genuinly in fear when I pulled the trigger, but I had no problems. 

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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2010, 07:17:11 AM »
It will be interesting to see how this cartridge fares in the future.  When I shot it the owner of the rifle was telling people about how destructive the muzzle blast could be, I was genuinly in fear when I pulled the trigger, but I had no problems. 

Interesting that you brought that up.  Where I shoot it's mostly steel plates, but you can also hang targets if you really want to.  One of the guys who has a 338 Lapua has said that he won't shoot steel plates closer than 500 yards away because the round is so powerful and tears up the steel too much.  It's all good quality steel that a 30-06 barely leaves a mark on and the 338 lapua just tears it up.  If a guy isn't going to be shooting at distances of 1,500 yards or more, there probably isn't any real reason to buy one other than as a man toy.

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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2010, 07:48:42 PM »
.338 Ultra is 95% of it and sells for half. I can't imagine the Ultra selling anywhere near as well. Must be like Weatherbys, charge more so folks feel that they are getting more.

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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2010, 12:02:25 PM »
Basically cost of doing a production run.

There's an initial investment in tooling and such required to produce the brass and load that specific cartridge.  That's about the same cost as any other cartridge really, but it's an investment that must be amortized over a much smaller amount of ammo.

Think about it.  Lets say it costs them $25,000 to gear up to sell a round.

They expect to sell 1,000 boxes of of .338 Lapua per year.

They expect to sell 200,000 boxes of .308 Winchester per year.

These numbers are completely made up, but you get the idea - each box of the less popular round will cost more because each box has to pay back a larger portion of the tooling investment.

Then there are the simple labor costs of setting everything up to do a run (they won't be constantly making a particular round).  Runs of popular cartridges will be done in much larger batches.  Runs of niche cartridges will be done in smaller batches.

It's also affected by simple competition - both for the manufacturer and from the vendors.  For manufacturers, not as many people are making the round.  Few sources will mean less competition, and hence higher prices.  The same situation happens again when it hits retail shelves.  Most people can buy .30-30, .270, .308, and other such common rounds at their local Wal-mart.  Anybody wanting to sell those has to temper their prices with the realization that if you charge TOO much more, the customers will run there and get it cheaper.  Niche rounds only available in gun-shop though?  They have a lot more leeway. 


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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2010, 03:54:39 AM »
I think when you get in that case head size (.588) it just runs the cost up.  Now that Rem is making rifles/ammo for the 338 Laupa be intersting to see what happens here in the US.

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Re: .338 Lapua, why so expensive?
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2010, 08:36:27 AM »
The same reason divorce is so expensive... because it's worth it...
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