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Offline riverrunner131

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Need advise on restoring fire damaged barrels.
« on: August 24, 2010, 06:50:13 PM »
Hi I was hoping some of you gunsmith guys could give me some advise. My Dad recently had a fire in his shop luckily his gun collection was protected in a fireproof gun safe but were not as protected as we had hoped. The guns were covered in some sort of black soot i assume came from the fire retardant material inside the safe the soot has pretty much destroyed the finish on all the guns. The black soot has been removed with lots of elbow grease but now we need to put a finish back to the guns. I haven't tried to refinish a whole gun before but the price having them restored has drove me to give it a try. Any suggestions as to a good bluing agent or a preferred method would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Need advise on restoring fire damaged barrels.
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2010, 04:53:47 PM »
If your Dad had insurance, you may have "jumped the gun", so to speak. A better idea would have been to take the guns as they were to a qualified gunsmith for an estimate of the damage. I have been involved with three fire damage appraisals, and in every case the insurance covered the majority of the refinishing of the guns. I don't know of a cold blue that will give satisfactory results in these cases. Best of luck.
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Re: Need advise on restoring fire damaged barrels.
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2010, 04:56:47 PM »
Brownell's Oxpho Blue is the best.
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Re: Need advise on restoring fire damaged barrels.
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2010, 02:17:47 AM »
 I was involved in the same situation about 5-6 years ago. A relative had a fire and many guns were damaged. The damage to the metal was caused by acidic soot,ash,smoke, & very little water run off. I helped him out with about 20+ guns. Yes, 1st the insurance co had their say towards the claim. I 1st broke them down the best I could, wiped, & evaluated them. They were previously wiped down just a day or 2 after the fire, which was a day or 2 late.   If the guns were not covered, the soot made it's way into the trigger group area & messed things up.

  I sent the barrels of 2 O/U's to get hot reblued locally, $150+. Some low dollar guns I used 'rust remover' from Brownells & then the oxpho blue. A muzzle-loader I used as parts & ordered a new barrel. I had a mini-14 that had an issue with a 'factory only' replacement part. I called then sent it to Ruger with an explanation(fire), & they sold a replacement 'at cost'. They kept the fire tarnished gun. Even the local hot reblue job was not as nice as the original factory finish.

  So in the end I had some that were almost good as new, one new,some cheaper 'camp guns'. That acidic smoke/soot really does a number on the metal. Heat was never an issue in this fire. My smith later said "you have to wipe/clean the guns as the dept is reeling up the hoses after the fire". Of course other things are usually going on. The insurance co was O.K., but they never came out ahead on the deal. 
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Re: Need advise on restoring fire damaged barrels.
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2010, 04:44:31 PM »
I certainly didn't mean to infer that they came even close to breaking even on the repairs. You will always lose on a fire! Just hope the really important (to you) guns can be salvaged.
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Re: Need advise on restoring fire damaged barrels.
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2010, 08:22:03 PM »
I had a colt 45 in a fire that had a full clip of ammo in it it melted the lead all through the acction
so everything was like welded together. i put it in a can of oil for about six months.
I finally decided it was no good like it was so I put it on the burner of our gas cook stove untill the lead started to melt with welding gloves I got the top to slide back. back in the fire untill I could get it apart.
after getting it all cleaned up all I had to do was buy all new springs and new grips then I reblued it after that it was like new again.