MONTANA SAYS MAKE DEVIATE BEHAVIOUR ILLEGAL.

[Range Rider]

As someone said the Gays must recruit as they can not reproduce. I find it amazing how  they will even show up on forums of this nature.  They believe they can win converts among  middle class Americans?  Do they believe because the left wing in Washington supports them that they are accepted?  Have you noticed how they Zero in on folks like Dee and the Bible.  They remind me of the Vampire legends and the power of the cross over their wasted lives.  No I don't understand Yellow Tail and his followers, who defend this life style as normal behavior.

[powderman]

A couple of years ago here in Kentucky 2 funny bunnies decided they wanted to have kids. A surrogate mother bore twins for them. After the kids were born the other queer decided he too wanted to be a daddy, another surrogate. The media ate it up, complete with interviews, pics of the kids room, etc, sickening. Homos should never, EVER, be allowed to raise children or be in authority over them. They cannot adopt here and what they did should be illegal too.
Support em if ya want yt3, I reckon you have your reasons.  POWDERMAN. 

[yellowtail3]

I find it amazing how  they will even show up on forums of this nature. 

That's because you aren't near as smart as you think you are. You're the one worried about Mennonites hangin' you, right?

No I don't understand Yellow Tail and his followers, who defend this life style as normal behavior.

I have followers? Cool - where are they.

Speaking for myself alone... I did not 'defend this life style as normal behavior.' I did, however, object to calls to kill homosexuals. Few others did. I know a couple who are homosexuals; if someone tried to kill them, they might have to go through me.

So far zero'ing in on anyone or the Bible... hey, Jesus doesn't address this, no matter what the ignorant say. Fact, nothing more. But he does address killing your fellow man. That probably doesn't matter to you, RR - fair enough - but it does to others, or should.

[guzzijohn]

Powderman,
So are you saying that your church would not welcome gays? Ours would as it would welcome anyone that wants to enter our house of God. Look in the book of Luke and Matthew and you will find several examples of Jesus interacting, breaking bread, etc. with what would be considered some pretty big time sinners. Seems to me that is where they may find their best spiritual support. Hate the sin, love the sinner.
As for gay's converting straights to homosexuality and being pedophiles, could you be converted? Do you think any other straights could really be converted? There are no significant difference in the numbers of pedophiles between gays and non-gays. All that is being shown with that line of thought is extreme ignorance.
GuzziJohn

[BBF]

I'm not in favor of same gender couples adopting children either. Kids need a real Dad and a real Mom not two of the same.

[beerbelly]

 if someone tried to kill them, they might have to go through me.

I am sure they are safe, I bet you cause people to tremble in fear!

[wreckhog]

I'm not in favor of same gender couples adopting children either. Kids need a real Dad and a real Mom not two of the same.

My sister in law would agree with you. She is not in favor of divorced or widowed women with kids either. She thinks that they ought go out and get a dad for those kids. Ferget about single women having babies, those are just losers.

[beerbelly]

Damn there is some intellect in your family!
        Beerbelly

[yellowtail3]

if someone tried to kill them, they might have to go through me.

I am sure they are safe, I bet you cause people to tremble in fear!

Not interested in making anyone tremble. But like many here, I'll do my best to be dangerous to any who try to hurt my children or my friends.

You'd do the same for yours, right?

[powderman]

Guzzi. Of course they would be welcome in my church, where else will they hear Gods true word, repent, and sin no more???
yt3. I reckon the pink pistols have their own Bible??? Dee answered your question, You can't seem to see the truth when it's right under your nose. I'll list a few references on the subject.

1st Corinthians ch 6, verse 9.
Romans ch 1, verses 26,27,28.
Leviticus Ch 18, verse 22, and ch 20 verse13.
Ephesians ch 5, verse12.
Deuteronomy ch 22, verse 5, and ch 23 verses 17, 18.
1st Kings ch 22 verse 46. ch 14, verse 24, and ch 15, verse 12.
2nd Kings. ch 23, verse 7.
See what YOUR Bible says, this is what mine says. Need more??? POWDERMAN. 

[yellowtail3]

yt3. I reckon the pink pistols have their own Bible???

I dunno; they're not a religious org, but they're all about self-defense.

Dee answered your question, You can't seem to see the truth when it's right under your nose. I'll list a few references on the subject.

...
See what YOUR Bible says, this is what mine says. Need more??? POWDERMAN. 

No, Dee dodged my question, so I'll pose it to you: does Jesus have anything to say about whether we should be killing homosexuals, and did Jesus have anything to say about homosexuals/homosexuality, specifically?

I'll look forward to your direct answer...

[Hooker]

I think I can answer that YT3.
Jesus would say let him that is without sin cast the first stone.
Although the Bible says the wages of sin is death it is not our place to carry out any such sentence, because in this case it refers to a spiritual death.

Pat

[powderman]

yt3. When you keep asking the same questions over and over and over when they have already been answered I have to believe one of 2 things about you.
#1, You have a big problem understanding the written word. OR
#2. When it comes to a battle of wits you always seem to run out of ammunition. POWDERMAN. 

[yellowtail3]

yt3. When you keep asking the same questions over and over and over when they have already been answered I have to believe one of 2 things about you.
#1, You have a big problem understanding the written word. OR
#2. When it comes to a battle of wits you always seem to run out of ammunition. POWDERMAN.  

that's cute, powderman - but no one has yet managed to show me a single scripture where Jesus addresses homosexuals, or homosexuality. He does, however, have some things to say about judging, and what it puts one in danger of.

I'm not gonna hold it against you that you're sufficiently insecure in your faith that you don't want to acknowledge those incontrovertible facts.

[dukkillr]

The cute little dig someone throws at another will get this thread locked.  Respond on topic and leave your thoughts on other posters to yourself.

[powderman]

you're too insecure in your faith/manhood to acknowledge those incontrovertible facts; we've all got our weaknesses, after all...



yt. You're the one supporting homosexuality, not me. POWDERMAN. 

[crustylicious]

Let's get back on topic fellers!
For starters the referenced article is not about Montana, it's about the Montana Republican party.
Second it's not about making homosexuality illegal, it's about the Republicans desire to remove that plank from their platform.

"I looked at that and said, 'You've got to be kidding me,'" state Sen. John Brueggeman, R-Polson, said last week. "Should it get taken out? Absolutely. Does anybody think we should be arresting homosexual people? If you take that stand, you really probably shouldn't be in the Republican Party."

"To me, that statement legally is hollow," said constitutional specialist Jack Tuholske. "The principle under Gryczan and under Lawrence, that's the fundamental law of the land and the Legislature can't override the Constitution. It might express their view, but as far as a legal reality, it's a hollow view and can't come to pass."

Brueggeman suspects that the vast majority of the party believes, as he does, that the Republican party should remove statement. It's against every conservative principle for limited government and issues like this exemplify how a political party can interfere with the relationship between lawmakers and their constituents.

Reading is Fundamental!

[yellowtail3]

you're too insecure in your faith/manhood to acknowledge those incontrovertible facts; we've all got our weaknesses, after all...
yt. You're the one supporting homosexuality, not me. POWDERMAN. 

I'm not supporting homosexuality; I'm opposing killing peeps who are homosexuals, and I'm saying Jesus would do the same. And I know what Jesus says on this subject; apparently you don't, or just don't want to acknowledge it. Fair enough?

[MGMorden]

yt3. When you keep asking the same questions over and over and over when they have already been answered I have to believe one of 2 things about you.
#1, You have a big problem understanding the written word. OR
#2. When it comes to a battle of wits you always seem to run out of ammunition. POWDERMAN. 

Just so that we can quit dancing around the subject, I think what yellowtail is looking for is "words in red".  IE, direct quotations from Jesus on the topic.  Not Biblical quotes in general.


Regardless, as the article mentions, this issue is moot.  The state and federal supreme courts have already had precedent-setting rules on this.  It won't fly on a constitutional check, end of story.  This move is more of a publicity stunt than anything that they could ever hope to implement.  As crusta mentions, half the article is about the state Republicans stating how they need to drop this position.

[Junior1942]

I seem to remember reading something about a college sociological, psychological or anthropological study done on homophobes--people who hate homosexual people.  They discovered the dangest information.  It seems the most homophobic people were actually closet homosexuals.  What they really hated was their own forbidden desires.  Ain't that amazing?

[Hooker]

Don't feed the Troll

[Dee]

As someone said the Gays must recruit as they can not reproduce. I find it amazing how  they will even show up on forums of this nature.  They believe they can win converts among  middle class Americans?  Do they believe because the left wing in Washington supports them that they are accepted?  Have you noticed how they Zero in on folks like Dee and the Bible.  They remind me of the Vampire legends and the power of the cross over their wasted lives.  No I don't understand Yellow Tail and his followers, who defend this life style as normal behavior.

Range Rider, anyone whom has spiritual discernment concerning scripture, and it's meaning, knows that I did indeed address, and answer yellowtail's question. He is, like so many, so intent in disproving the Bible, that while he is gleefully announcing victory at stumping me, he is oblivious that the Bible is: The Inspired Word of God, and "was written by Him, thru them", and in this case NEW TESTAMENT "PAUL", just as God gave the Word to JOHN THE REVELATOR, in The Book of Revelation.
yellowtail, has neither the patients, the wisdom required, nor the spiritual understanding, to sift thru the scriptures I posted, along with supporting scriptures, to see that his answers to both questions are there. It is PEARLS BEFORE SWINE in this case, as always.

It is also much like the much misunderstood Commandment Thou Shalt Not Kill. The original was written in Hebrew, and it actually said: Don't Murder. It is in fact scripturally correct to kill in defense of one's on self, family, and friends. During His ministry, Christ Himself, instructed his disciples to "buy swords" as it was in those days dangerous to travel, and when Christ was arrested Peter demonstrated that he knew full well how to use one.
SO! Don't worry about anyone zeroing in on me for my Faith. I have in my past career risked my life for folks I did not even know, and many times never saw again.

yellowtail's mission in life is "not to debate, but to disprove". He takes himself far more serious than anyone here takes him, and believes himself far more clever than he actually is. He is contentious by nature, and sets about to prove all are inferior to himself.
I myself will concerning topics such as this stick with the Word, and feel comfortable that I have gotten it straight from "THE" Expert.

In Proverbs Chapter 23 verse 9. God says THRU SOLOMON : Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

[dukkillr]

Well there you go.