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??? On two knives....
« on: February 02, 2011, 11:00:51 PM »
A question for the experts...How are these two knives...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230572250615&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230578567475&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I have long liked the looks of the Kershaw. Its one piece formed handle should make for a very strong. durable base. But hows the steel?

I also have like the Gerber for a while. But I know they are not the blades that they used to be...

Looking for personal experience, or experience with other in the same line. Even a opinion based on materials they are built with.

What do you say?

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Re: ??? On two knives....
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2011, 04:54:54 PM »
If your looking at that style of knife take a look at the fixed blade Zero Tolerance knives (it's Kershaws millitary line) Take a look at th ZT 0150. Of te two you listed I'd have to go with the Kershaw. The steel on Bothe knives are kinda so so (I'm a machinist) Which is kinda the downfall to knives in thelower price range.

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Re: ??? On two knives....
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2011, 05:29:43 PM »
I've always liked the Kershaw, but they're not legal carry here in PA.  I've a Grohmann  folder with the same steel and it takes a decent edge; although not in the same class as 154CM/S30V etc. 

As far as the Gerber goes, 440A has always been known as a workhorse stainless steel.  The last time I checked the Special Forces and SEAL standard knives were made of it...that may have changed. Doesn't take a great edge for long, but will take a lot of abuse.

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Re: ??? On two knives....
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 02:24:44 PM »
1.4116 steel is the same steel as the 416 Krupp that Cold Steel is pushing in some of their knives,  it's the same steel in many of the high dollar knives from Puma, and it's very similar to the stainless that Victorinox uses in Swiss Army knives.  It will take a great edge with little effort.  Retention is so-so, in my experience.  In that Kershaw knife, it's going to do just about anything you ask of it.

Kershaw is my favorite folding knife company by far. 

440A gets a bad rap as a cheap steel.  While not the best edge holder, it's a very tough stainless.  SOG uses it in the Seal 2000 and Seal Pup knives.  Kabar uses it in the Next Generation knives.  Kershaw still does several of their folders in it too.  They all have their heat treats spot on to get the most out of the steel.

Before Gerber was bought by Fiskars, their 440A was spot on too.  When Fiskars bought the company and moved so much of the production overseas, it seems that the quality of the blades is lacking.  The knives that are made in the USA are pretty good.  The others.....eh, it's a toss up.  I've always thought that the Steadfast just looked like an uncomfortable knife.  I thought that back when it was called the LMF too (pre-Fiskars).

Do you have a specific use in mind, or are they just going to be eye candy for the collection?  They are knives designed with two different purposes.

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Re: ??? On two knives....
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 02:42:30 PM »
Mosty just eye candy.

 I have a sweet spot for the fighters. and the concealability of the Kershaw it may see some use.

I thought it looked familiar!!  LMF huh... Good information!!  I have a couple older Gerbers that I do like and work very well. I have one new one the wife bought me. Its a loveless style with a micarta grip in high polish. Not my favorite finish, but a "pretty" knife I have to say. Its got a lanyard hole something I do like and a short enough blade for every day open carry. Imitation leather sheath on nice style.

Thank you for all the comments, its exactly what I needed to hear.

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Re: ??? On two knives....
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2011, 02:44:57 PM »
If your looking at that style of knife take a look at the fixed blade Zero Tolerance knives (it's Kershaws millitary line) Take a look at th ZT 0150. Of te two you listed I'd have to go with the Kershaw. The steel on Bothe knives are kinda so so (I'm a machinist) Which is kinda the downfall to knives in thelower price range.

 Thanks for the suggestion.

I checked them out and they are not really to my liking.

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