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Offline beleg2

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Firelapping a caplock revolver?
« on: October 06, 2010, 04:30:41 PM »
Hi,
Can I firelap my caplock revolver?
I have firelap many rifles with LBT product I bought many years ago.
Any recomendation?
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Martin

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Re: Firelapping a caplock revolver?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2010, 03:10:07 AM »
Looks like no one have experience firelapping caplock revolvers.
Not even Veral Smith?
I have an old Tranter caplock revolver and I would like to get more accuracy lapping the barrel.
I get much oxide fron the barrel:
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Martin

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Re: Firelapping a caplock revolver?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2010, 03:07:14 PM »
Sorry guy, I missed your question, I firelapped my ROA after getting a kit for my 357max.  The bore on the ROA was very rough; a tight dry patch felt like pushing through a cheeze grater.  I used soft lead conicals loaded into 45 Lc and fired through a conversion cylinder, it's been awhile ago, but I used a small amt of Unique; enough to push the slug through the barrel and out.  I rolled the conicals in the compound as per Veral's directions.  Without the conversion, you could load conicals and a light B/p load, but if there's much difference between bore diameter and cylinder diameter, you might be polishing the forcing cone only.

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Re: Firelapping a caplock revolver?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2010, 04:58:14 AM »
Many percussion revolvers are made with the cylinders smaller than the groove diameter on the barrel. If this is the case, firelapping won't help. Ruger Old Armys are an exception to this, the grooves usually .452" and the chambers .454". Part of why they shoot so well. If you have a Dixie Gun catalog from the last few years, check out some of the chamber/barrel dimensions of the guns they sell. You will be amazed, and wonder how those things can shoot accurately at all.
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Re: Firelapping a caplock revolver?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2010, 06:56:53 AM »
Thnak you very much for you answers.
I beg your pardon for not been clear enough on my post.
This old revolver (made around 1864) have pitted barrel so i would like to firelap it.
Chambers are bigger than the barrel but i have not measure them yet.
How I know it? a ball passed through the barrel can be seat in the chambers.
I would like to know if I can use round balls or have to use bullets.
Also if I have to roll the balls with the firelapping compound or just put some of it on the charged cilynder mouth.
Thanks
Martin

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Re: Firelapping a caplock revolver?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2010, 02:46:51 PM »
  Hey guys, don't jump in ahead of me with your answers!  Read the name of the forum and keep aware that the questions are asked to Veral Smith, not anybody.  I'm very strict on enforcing this, with the delete button, if I see error in an answer.
 
 However I'm leaving the post by Mobada in place, because it's half right but completely wrong.

  All revolvers have varying dimensions between throats and barrel and all can be fire lapped.  Just open up the cylinder throats till they are a bit larger than the barrel, then firelap.

  As for the pitted barrel, firelap it then follow the very detailed lap instructions on how to fix the pits so they don't hinder performance.

  You can use the round balls to firelap, by putting a little compound on the noses and smearing some in the bore with a bore brush.  Compound on the nose will slide back around the ball when you touch her off.  Keep the charges low as possible to avoid leading.  If  a cap and ball revolver needs to have the cylinder throats opened up, purchase a reamer that is at least .001 larger than barrel groove diameter and ream all the way to the botton of the chambers, to clean up any rust, buildup, etc but also to enlarge them a bit for a tad more powder room.  The guns I've played with have tapered chambers and a reamer fixes it.

  Most machine tool supply houses, probably all, will speical order custom diamete chucking  reamers, and manufacures make many sizes in .001 increments.  They aren't expensive, like having a custom shop which caters to gun builders do the grinding.
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Re: Firelapping a caplock revolver?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2010, 10:37:54 AM »
Thank you very much Veral.
I have been following your advice for many years (more than 15), since I get your book, hardness tester, lapping product and lube.
Can I some filler between the low charge and the ball?
I was thinking of using a dry felt wad or some corn meal.
Thanks again.
Martin

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Re: Firelapping a caplock revolver?
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2010, 07:47:29 PM »
  I believe felt wads would be best of the two, as they would tend to scrub less of the lap compound out of the bore, and might speed the lapping quite dramatically if you smeared the edges with a bit of compound.
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