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Seacoast Cannon Model
« on: September 29, 2010, 10:38:50 PM »
The photos of this model come from Christie's, and I saved them a few months ago, but I can't remember the appraised value that the gun was given. This is the description that was given of the cannon: MODEL CANNON - English circa 1890 iron working model of an articulated seacoast fortification 24-pounder cannon with turned iron 21'' long barrel and 3-4'' bore.

This is obviously what is called a depression cannon that would be mounted on a high vantage point overlooking the water, because the carriage design is meant to fire the gun either level, or pointing downward. I've never seen a historic mount like this before, but there are a lot of things I haven't seen; I wonder if it's based on real plans, or relies more heavily on the maker's imagination?   

 






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Re: Seacoast Cannon Model
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2010, 01:33:39 AM »
That would make a fun squirrel gun for the edge of my deck next to the chestnut trees.   ;D

But I'd need positive elevation as well.
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Re: Seacoast Cannon Model
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2010, 01:36:07 AM »
I wonder what went on top?
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Re: Seacoast Cannon Model
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2010, 03:26:14 AM »
I wonder what went on top?

Probably the pin on top went it to a bracket on the ceiling of the Casement acting as a swivel point

since recoil is captured it would keep the mount steady and from wanting to fall backwards.
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Re: Seacoast Cannon Model
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2010, 12:19:52 PM »
Anyone have any references for this carriage?  It is an interesting design.
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Re: Seacoast Cannon Model
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2010, 01:23:09 PM »
Any idea of how the recoil was handled?
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Re: Seacoast Cannon Model
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2010, 02:19:17 PM »
isnt it just sliding in that radius shaped track ??
the elevation is set by cranking the handle that will move the arm  thats attached with the axle at the top
so the one and only reason for that radius must be to handle the recoil
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Re: Seacoast Cannon Model
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2010, 07:36:49 PM »
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isnt it just sliding in that radius shaped track ??
the elevation is set by cranking the handle that will move the arm  thats attached with the axle at the top
so the one and only reason for that radius must be to handle the recoil

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Re: Seacoast Cannon Model
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2010, 10:17:04 PM »
RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

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Re: Seacoast Cannon Model
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2010, 01:45:09 AM »
THat works for me!

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Re: Seacoast Cannon Model
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2010, 08:23:04 AM »
But seriously folks! I think that the projection on top is simply the pivot that the rocker arm (sorry boys, I was a bolt-head) is attached to, which in turn supports the cradle that holds the barrel, allowing it swing back and forth.
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2010, 05:48:32 PM »
Parallel trunion arms . Recoil would have been on the arc seen on the side ?
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Re: Seacoast Cannon Model
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2010, 07:53:44 PM »
The bolt & washer on the trunion look like a way to dampen the recoil, note the scared zone on top of the arc cut. So elaborate. Must have been a costly toy even when it was made.