Shotgun to Rifle Barrel

[38-72]

I would like to run this idea up the flagpole and see what you all think of it.  So, here goes:

I need a short barrel 40 caliber black powder cartridge rifle (low pressure loads).  It must be an ejector type.  I’m thinking that I could get one of the ultra slug barrels fitted to my action, and then have it lined with appropriate caliber barrel which is turned to fit the bore of the shotgun barrel.  I’m not sure if 20 or 12 gauge would be best.  The reason for the shotgun barrel is that they still have ejectors.


So, feel free pick my idea apart and/or make suggestions.

[quickdtoo]

Extractors can be converted to ejectors, I've done several, see the FAQs.

Tim

[S.E.Ak]

I would start with a .410 barrel

[bikerbeans]

Friend of mine does liner barrels on the H&R and he normally uses a standard 20 ga smooth bore barrel.  I think you can find a 20 ga smoothbore for less $$$ than a fully rifled USH barrel.  You could probably do the project as a stub also, instead of a liner.  My friend has done it both ways

BB

[guns-o-fun]

You trying for a 38-40?  You could search around for an ejector barrel in a smaller bore size, or like Tim says, convert from extractor and just have Wayne York rebore and rechamber.  He does 38-40 (.400 bore).  If there is some other 40 you want, you would have to pay for the chamber reamer rental.

http://www.oregunsmithingllc.com/Relining-Reboring-MuzzleBrake.html

[38-72]

Thanks for the replies!!!

It's not a 38-40, but 40-50 Sharps BN.  45-70 cases are easily reformed.  I already have the reamer for a 0.408 barrel from another project. 

I’m not that good at milling machine work, so I talked with Wayne awhile back about converting an extractor to an ejector on anther project.  I sent the gun to him and he studied it for a while and concluded that he could not do the conversation.

I’ll take a closer look at the 20 gauge vs stub.

Thanks again!

[quickdtoo]

If I can do it, Wayne can!!  I did several before I got my mini-mill, and a few since, it's real easy if you have an ejector barrel to determine the hole position for the pins, other than that, it's no problem, he does need to order the ejector parts, Brownell's carrys them including some ejectors the ejector itself may be a problem but can be made from a shotgun ejector if need be, done that too for Pete's 445 Supermag. Did you talk to him since early June? I was over there then to pick up the custom 6x45 Handi and discussed it with him, I'll give him a call a "coach" him if need be if you want it done, that's something he should be doing.

Tim

[guns-o-fun]

Tim,  I spoke with Wayne via phone before he started the whole conversion project on my 45 LC that is now to be a 50 Alaskan.  I asked him if he could do the conversion to an ejector and he said it would be too labor instensive and he did not feel comfortable charging all that extra labor $$ for what he considered to make little difference anyway.  Of course, if you have to have an ejector for some kind of CBA competition that's a different story.  But - I think this is why he does not want to do these conversions.  If he had some slick way of doing them that would not suck down some expensive labor time, I think he would be willing.  Rich

[quickdtoo]

I don't consider it very labor intensive, a 5mm end mill cuts the ejector latch slot longer with a step in the rear portion, a 7/32" hole for the lift spring pocket and if it's rimless, drill a hole in the bottom of the pocket for the lift button, one pin hole for the ejector spring stop and another for the ejector limit, I can do it in about 90 minutes, the first one took longer of course, but certainly not hard or labor intensive to replicate a factory ejector underlug and the nice thing about it, it can be converted back in a few minutes.  

Tim

[guns-o-fun]

Hey,  If you can talk him into it - that would be cool.

[quickdtoo]

I'll give him a call tomorrow.   ......  If he's not hunting, Oregon deer season opened this weekend.

Tim

[quickdtoo]

Wayne says he's done several ejector/extractor conversions, but it does cost due to the labor involved, what he hasn't done is set up the tooling and jigs that he'd need to do them quicker, but he'll do the conversion if asked. Maybe I'll make a duplicate of the plexi template that I use to make them and send it to him.  Just an FYI, he's gonna be closed here pretty soon for some hunting, won't be back until early November.

Tim