Ill give you my opinion on the new redfield scopes. Ive got a 2x7 and a 4x12 both are great opticaly for the price but both suffer from crappy turent ajustments. there click ajustments but stiff and mushy. one click may give you a 1/4 inch one time and 2 inches the next and ive even had windage wander when ajusting elevation and the same the other way. there ok on a gun that is going to be used with one load and once sighted in left alone but they are very frustrating to zero when changing loads.