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Offline chris_terry

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scope help ????
« on: January 27, 2011, 06:22:20 AM »
 hi im new to the forum.i just got my first gun.it is a h&r ultra slug hunter single shot with the ultragon rifling and bull barrle.i was wondering about the scope i am looking at.it is a new bushnell DOA shotgun scope at cabelas.it says to sight in at 100yrds and the 50,150,200 yrd crosshairs should be on the target to.any input be great thank you
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Re: scope help ????
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 10:30:08 AM »
Well Chris it will probably be close but you'll need to shoot it at your desired distance. Also remember different ammo manufactures will not shoot the same out of it. If you start with say Winchester and it shoots o.k. then stick with it and if it won't group try another brand. The scope, the Bushnell DOA is a good choice but shooting it and getting use to it is the name of the game.

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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 10:45:48 AM »
THANKS GRIZZ, JUST LOOKING FOR SOME FEED BACK .IM LOOKING TO TRY TO ZERO AT 100 WITH GOOD GROUPS.WOULD YOU SAY MY EXPECTIONS ARE TO HIGH OUT THAT FAR?I HAVE BEEN READING AND DO REALIZE ITS GOIN TO TAKE TIME TO FIND WHAT SLUG MY GUN LIKES.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 10:46:40 AM »
Quote from: chris_terry on January 27, 2011, 10:45:48 AM
THANKS GRIZZ, JUST LOOKING FOR SOME FEED BACK .IM LOOKING TO TRY TO ZERO AT 100 WITH GOOD GROUPS.WOULD YOU SAY MY EXPECTIONS ARE TO HIGH OUT THAT FAR?I HAVE BEEN READING AND DO REALIZE ITS GOIN TO TAKE TIME TO FIND WHAT SLUG MY GUN LIKES.


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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2011, 01:21:43 PM »
    Hi Chris
A few things you may want to consider. You will need a hammer spur when using a scope. Most Bushnells have a short eye relief- have to be carefull not to get cut by the heavy recoil. Most scopes I've tried on the USH the power adjusting ring ends up on top of the hammer and the Bushy is very fat in that area. You will not be able to mount the scope low. Check the spec's, the DOA may work well.
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Re: scope help ????
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 01:03:20 AM »
Quote from: chris_terry on January 27, 2011, 10:46:40 AM
Quote from: chris_terry on January 27, 2011, 10:45:48 AM
THANKS GRIZZ, JUST LOOKING FOR SOME FEED BACK .IM LOOKING TO TRY TO ZERO AT 100 WITH GOOD GROUPS.WOULD YOU SAY MY EXPECTIONS ARE TO HIGH OUT THAT FAR?I HAVE BEEN READING AND DO REALIZE ITS GOIN TO TAKE TIME TO FIND WHAT SLUG MY GUN LIKES.


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Chris, 100 yards is fine. I hunted for 40 years with a Winchester sabot gun using Lightfield ammo and always kept it sighted in for 150 yard with less than 2" groups. We are now allowed to use rifle for the last 5 years so now I have retired the old Winnie.
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Re: scope help ????
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 03:29:22 AM »
Eyeshot,thanks for the info i did buy the gun brand new the scope mount and the hammer spur were included.is there any disadvantges not being able to mount the scope low?


Old grizz, that is good to hear im new to all of this and kinda worried about being able to sight in right.im in north west ohio and we can only use shotgun here and i have heard all of good things about the h&r.btw that seems like really good groups less then 2 at 150.
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 06:54:58 AM »
Chris, if you can bore sight the shotgun first and make your 1st few shots at 25 yards you will use less ammo. If you have a range to go to so you can bench it you'll be further ahead.
I normally use a Caldwell Lead Sled with 75 lb. of bird shot to help keep my groups tight. I'm one of the lucky ones to have a 200 yard range in my backyard so I can shoot whenever I get the urge.

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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 12:58:40 PM »
Old grizz,well when i have the scope mounted they said they would bore sight it.i also did plan on using some sort of a rest and a friend of mine dads has some land proly be able to sight in there i hope. mabe at the time when i sight in i can try to buy a lead sled atleast a desant one i seen some  cheap lookin ones. and once agin thank you for all your help very appreciate it
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2011, 04:05:10 PM »
Best advice I ever got about a rifled slug gun is to buy a bunch of different sabots and shoot them for group before you start sighting it in. Find the ones your gun likes to shoot first it can save you some head aches. Don't forget to try buck hammers either.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 04:32:56 PM »
Like Spikehorn said, don't worry about moveing the scope at all until you find a slug that shoots a tight group. ear
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2011, 10:11:58 AM »
Something not often considered is that the gun may be capable of those tight groups (you pick the size and at what distance to strive for) but you may not be (at first) without learning how to manage those hard kicking slugs.
Even on lighter recoiling guns the magic of small benchrest groups often does not just happen because you are on the bench; benchrest technique is a learned experience.
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Re: scope help ????
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2011, 02:08:29 AM »
I have two USH's. One 12 and one 20, both wear Leupold 1x4x20 VX II shotgun scopes. They have a bold duplex reticule and work perfectly for me.

In the 12 I am lucky enough to be able to site the Rem Ultra Cor Lokts for 1 1/2 or so high and have the Buck Hammer be dead on at the same 100 yard distance. What this does for me is lets me carry two different loads that will allow me to accurately kill deer from muzzle to about 200 yards. This gun shoots one hole groups at 100 with the hammers and nearly touching with the ultras.



In my 20, I shoot the Hornady  slugs, they have been most accurate so far. Very good but not quite as accurate as the 12.







Mounting the scope as close to the bore as possible is really most beneficial for long ranges. Ergonomically it allows for proper stance and cheek weld to the stock. As you can see the the center pic, lo rings ARE usable with a handi friendly scope. Burris ZEE, Leupold PRW and Warne Maximums all work in lo with proper scopes.

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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2011, 01:34:00 PM »
New Redfield with Accu trac in Burris low Zee rings.
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Re: scope help ????
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2011, 02:48:21 PM »
Quote from: eye shot on January 30, 2011, 01:34:00 PM
New Redfield with Accu trac in Burris low Zee rings.

Nice scope!!
 I have one as well, only shot it twiice, but it zeroed easily and is working very well.





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Re: scope help ????
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2011, 08:01:17 AM »
spikehorn,thank for the info on try a bunch of different slugs.


cwlongshot, thanks for the pics and the info i hope i can get some groups like that at 100yrds.mine is the 12gauge with the laminated stock also.im am lookin to try the rem. acu tips,copper soild the patrion gold,buck hammer and light feid right off the bat. i got the acu-tips and the copper soilds already (they were on sale at the local sporting good store). but the weather is goin get bad where i am at so not thinkin im goin to get to shot till mabe next week some time.
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