Author Topic: Cafe owner ordered to remove exhaust fan, the smell of bacon offends muslims.  (Read 1219 times)

0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 1:01 PM on 21st October 2010
A hard-working cafe owner has been ordered to tear down an extractor fan - because the smell of her frying bacon 'offends' Muslims.
Planning bosses acted against Beverley Akciecek, 49, after being told her next-door neighbour's Muslim friends had felt 'physically sick' due to the 'foul odour'.

Councillors at Stockport Council in Greater Manchester say the smell from the fan is 'unacceptable on the grounds of residential amenity'.
 Planning row: Cafe owner Beverley Akciecek has been ordered to tear down an extractor fan by the council because the smell of cooked bacon 'offends' Muslims

The fan has been in Beverley's Snack Shack takeaway in the Shaw Heath area of the town for the past three years.
Mrs Akciecek and her husband Cetin, 50, - himself a Turkish Muslim - work more than 50 hours a week buying, preparing and cooking hot and cold sandwiches and hot-pots for their customers.
Today mother-of-seven Mrs Akciecek said she plans to appeal against the decision.
She said: 'I just think it's crazy. Cetin's friends actually visit the shop, they're regular visitors, they're Muslim people, they come in a couple of times a week.
'I have Muslim people come in for cheese toasties. Cetin cooks the food himself, he cooks the bacon.
'When we go to a cafe my husband wouldn't be offended by the smell of bacon. His friends are not offended by it, we have three visitors who come here for a sandwich, friends of my husband, and the smell doesn't offend them at all.
'My brother-in-law doesn't flinch if he comes and we've just taken out three trays of bacon.
'I'm going to find a local councillor. I'm waiting for the letter so I can appeal.'
The couple took over the take-away in 2007 from the previous owner and replaced the existing extractor fan, which had been there for six years, with a new modern one.
They claim they received no complaints about the cafe which is open from 7.30am-2.30pm six days a week, until around 18 months ago when they received a letter from environmental services to say their neighbour Graham Webb-Lee had complained about the smell.
 Fan dispute: Mrs Akciecek outside their cafe in Stockton. She is planning to appeal the council's decision to remove the extractor fan which can been seen in the top left corner of the picture

Mrs Akciecek said: 'We've never had a problem about the smell because everything is pre-cooked. We cook it in the oven so there's no foul smell.
'It's pre-cooked so the smell isn't as strong when we're frying it off. It's like living next to someone who's cooking a Sunday breakfast but it's not constant it's just in the morning.
'It's been a sandwich shop for about eight years, cooking exactly the same stuff. The lady before me did double because they were actually building new houses across the road so she was really busy. She was here from 6am-4pm because they were so busy.
'They were there before me but they were also there when the lady who owns the business was here and she was doing double what we are. She had five staff, you can imagine how bust that shop was and they never complained at all.'
They say that the council's environmental services had been out to inspect their property after their neighbour complained about a foul odour last year, but they ruled that the smell was not causing a problem.
Mrs Akciecek said: 'Environmental services said everything is ok. They kept coming back and guaging it and said there was no problem and because they didn't take any action (the neighbours) complained again.'
The couple had never applied for planning permission as they had simply replaced an existing extractor fan with one of the same size and in the same position, but, following further complaints from their neighbour, they were informed by the council they would have to apply retrospectively as an objection had been raised.
They applied for planning permission in May this year, but the application was refused at a meeting of Stockport Area Committee on October 14.

Mr Webb-Lee objected to the aplication - complaining that his Muslim friends refused to visit him becase they 'can't stand the smell of bacon'.
Mrs Akciecek, who also attended the meeting, said: 'He said he had a daughter with an eating disorder, the Muslim friends, and the bad smell all the time is making his clothes smell.

'The councillors agreed with him without even asking me what I thought. It was as if they didn't even realise I was there.
'This cafe is our only source of income. There are only two of us working, we haven't got any staff anymore. We work seven hours in the shop and my husband goes to the cash and carry and has all the prep work to do. We're working long hours. He does about 50 hours a week easy and I'm working about the same and we work Saturdays.
'The shop will be a lot harder work. It will be a good hour a day washing the walls down, I will not work anywhere with the grease falling down the walls. We can't move it anywhere.
'I'm not going to accept it and we're going to fight it.'
Mr Webb-Lee said: 'The vent is 12 inches from my front door. Every morning the smell of bacon comes through and makes me physically sick.
'I have a lot of Muslim friends. They refuse to visit me anymore because they can't stand the smell of bacon.'
A spokesman for Stockport Council said: 'The retrospective application was rejected on the grounds of residential amenity, as the committee felt the odours given off from the vent were unacceptable for neighbouring residents.
'We will ensure that the cafe complies with this decision and removes the extractor fan.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-Muslims.html



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aint this a crock????? POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline billy_56081

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8575
  • Gender: Male
WOW that's great. The one plant in town cooks bacon bits, I am hoping it is a muslim repellent.
99% of all Lawyers give the other 1% a bad name. What I find hilarious about this is they are such an arrogant bunch, that they all think they are in the 1%.

Offline SwampThing762

  • Trade Count: (10)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2371
Maybe us infidel Americans should export barbecue restaurant chains to the UK.  It might give the country back to the people to whom it belongs.    In my house and my business, if Muslims don't like the taste or smell of pork, they can go elsewhere.   I get my choise, they get their choice.

ST762
We learned the true nature of Islam on 11 Sept 2001.

Show your appreciation for Islam....eat more bacon.

"Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam." (Not to us Lord, not us, but to your name give the glory)  -- Knights Templar motto

Offline wreckhog

  • Trade Count: (55)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2997
Smells that effect property value get played up these days. I know of coffee bars put out of business over smells that seeped into residential buildings. Dry cleaners too.

Offline Oldshooter

  • GBO subscriber and supporter
  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (4)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6426
First of all, let  me state that i dont trust anybody that doesn't like the smell of frying bacon!!!

From what I heard, it was a muslim visitor of a neighbor that had the repulsion to the bacon cooking.

This is an American single mom that operates a cafe to raise her children.

 I'd say; Go to hell and do not pass go and do not collect $200.00  The very idea !!!!   >:(

“Owning a handgun doesn’t make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician.”

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Offline wreckhog

  • Trade Count: (55)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2997
First of all, let  me state that i dont trust anybody that doesn't like the smell of frying bacon!!!

From what I heard, it was a muslim visitor of a neighbor that had the repulsion to the bacon cooking.

This is an American single mom that operates a cafe to raise her children.

 I'd say; Go to hell and do not pass go and do not collect $200.00  The very idea !!!!   >:(


What if you owned the building next door and had to take a 30 percent hit to sell it? These types of issues are in the news, now that real estate is tight. Read the real estate section. Staten Island had entire neighborhoods that were much cheaper because when the wind blew from the west, you smelled the dump.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/12/nyregion/12appraisal.html?_r=1

Offline Graybeard

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (69)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26942
  • Gender: Male
She'll never win that one. It seems these days there is a world wide effort to give the muzlims and mexicans any and everything they want. There is a reason for it I just dunno what that reason is at this point.


Bill aka the Graybeard
President, Graybeard Outdoor Enterprises
256-435-1125

I am not a lawyer and do not give legal advice.

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life anyone who believes in Him will have everlasting life!

Offline Spirithawk

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2495
  • Gender: Male
Sooo? Does that mean that, if your wife fries bacon for your breafast, all the windows have to be shut just in case a Muslim happens to walk by? Put your hip boots on folks and get out the shovels, it's getting deep!

Offline Oldshooter

  • GBO subscriber and supporter
  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (4)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6426
First of all, let  me state that i dont trust anybody that doesn't like the smell of frying bacon!!!

From what I heard, it was a muslim visitor of a neighbor that had the repulsion to the bacon cooking.

This is an American single mom that operates a cafe to raise her children.

 I'd say; Go to hell and do not pass go and do not collect $200.00  The very idea !!!!   >:(


What if you owned the building next door and had to take a 30 percent hit to sell it? These types of issues are in the news, now that real estate is tight. Read the real estate section. Staten Island had entire neighborhoods that were much cheaper because when the wind blew from the west, you smelled the dump.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/12/nyregion/12appraisal.html?_r=1

YOU COMPARING COOKING BACON TO A DUMP SMELL ?   ???  yOUR NOT EVEN A REASONABLE TROLL!  Better get the DNC playbook back out and reread the pia strategy

The bacon was there before the muslims were!
“Owning a handgun doesn’t make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician.”

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Online gypsyman

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4852
How the hell can they smell the bacon?? Some of the smell they emit, that I've caught a wiff of, could knock a buzzard off a s**t wagon at 50 yards!! :o gypsyman
We keep trying peace, it usually doesn't work!!Remember(12/7/41)(9/11/01) gypsyman

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
HEH. how would a muslim know what frying bacon smells like????:D :D
OLDSHOOTER. Agreed Sir. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline Brett

  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5148
  • Gender: Male
Next they will want to have all pork products removed from our grocery stores. 
Life memberships:  <><, NRA, BASS, NAFC

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Next they will want to have all pork products removed from our grocery stores. 


I've read that muslim cashiers can and do refuse to check out alcohol or pork products, they should be fired. I read in the Lou paper that muzzie cab drivers have refused to take passenger in posession of alcohol, and get by with it. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline Sourdough

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8150
  • Gender: Male
Musliums will go along with something for a few years then suddenly start complaining.  Once they start they will make themselves such a pain in the rear for the local officials they just waznt it to stop so they go along with what ever it takes to stop the complaints.  Even if the complaints are all from the same person.
Where is old Joe when we really need him?  Alaska Independence    Calling Illegal Immigrants "Undocumented Aliens" is like calling Drug Dealers "Unlicensed Pharmacists"
What Is A Veteran?
A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve -- is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life.' That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today who no longer understand that fact.

Offline Hooker

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1581
I think we need some bacon after shave, knives made from hog tusks, bacon scented bullets and maybe some crispy fried chitlin shot for the scatter gun  ;D

Pat
" In the beginning of change, the patriot is a brave and scarce man,hated and scorned. when the cause succeeds however,the timid join him...for then it cost nothing to be a patriot. "
-Mark Twain
"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms."
-- Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356

Offline Range Rider

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 228
  • Gender: Male
  • Have a nice day cowboy
No problem its just a matter of time before the Liberals find a new pet.  They have thrown the Jews the blacks and soon the Mexicans under the bus.  They cast out the Black Liberal Jaun Willams in favor of Ahab the Arab.  It is only a matter of time before these pea-brains like Whoopie Goldberg find another best friend.  Don't forget it was only a few years ago their best friends were whales and they were saving the ocean.  What ever happened to Ted Save the Whale Danson??

RR
Range Rider

Offline Tommyt

  • Trade Count: (51)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3051
  • Gender: Male
This Can be good
Need some Good Ole Boy's to open some
 Bacon And egg joints all around Victory Mosque
Fans Blowing into too it from the east
So they can get a full snoot of bacon when they
Put their arse up too the west


Tommyt
Christian USA Citizen

Offline Victor3

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (22)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4241
 Heck, I'm looking at it as a possible opportunity to make some cash. Imagine what I could charge for a bacon-smell-catalytic-converter designed for pancake house exhaust ducts.  ;D
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly, one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."

Sherlock Holmes

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
This Can be good
Need some Good Ole Boy's to open some
 Bacon And egg joints all around Victory Mosque
Fans Blowing into too it from the east
So they can get a full snoot of bacon when they
Put their arse up too the west


Tommyt
Christian USA Citizen



HEH, I love the way you think. POWDERMAN.  :D :D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline wreckhog

  • Trade Count: (55)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2997
This Can be good
Need some Good Ole Boy's to open some
 Bacon And egg joints all around Victory Mosque
Fans Blowing into too it from the east
So they can get a full snoot of bacon when they
Put their arse up too the west


Tommyt
Christian USA Citizen
What do you think is around there now?

Offline BBF

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10042
  • Gender: Male
  • I feel much better now knowing it will get worse.
I wouldn't be pleased with anyone's fan being close to my door or windows..................well, maybe a nice bakery would be OK.
What is the point of Life if you can't have fun.

Offline myronman3

  • Moderator
  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4837
  • Gender: Male
i have an exhaust fan from a resturant inches from my front door....the only effect it has on me is that it makes me HUNGRY from smelling all that good food cooking.   

Offline wreckhog

  • Trade Count: (55)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2997
It really depends on expectation. A friend who publishes a bar/restaurant guide to NYC spent millions on his apt. A 4th story walkup where tenants urinate in the staircase. He expected it though, so he does not care that much.

Offline SwampThing762

  • Trade Count: (10)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2371
Maybe we should get some sausage pizza street vendors and pork sausage and hot dog vendors set up on street in front of victory mosque, as well as some BBQ joints.   If they don't like it, they can move their victory mosque.   The victory mosque problem would be solved and we will have created some jobs for Americans without the help of Barack Hussein Obama.

ST762
We learned the true nature of Islam on 11 Sept 2001.

Show your appreciation for Islam....eat more bacon.

"Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam." (Not to us Lord, not us, but to your name give the glory)  -- Knights Templar motto

Offline Range Rider

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 228
  • Gender: Male
  • Have a nice day cowboy
Yes they are very much against Sex and Acohol.  That is until they move to the U.S.  They have a very cafeteria religion.  Just pick what you like.  As far as smell  I would think pork would be way down their list.  They seem to have a problem with bathing.

RR
Range Rider

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Quote
They seem to have a problem with bathing.

RR



HEH, you got that right. I've seen, errrr smelled, a lot of them when I worked for wm, both men, and women. I can't see why being around pigs would offend them. POWDERMAN.  :D :D :D :D :D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline SwampThing762

  • Trade Count: (10)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2371
Maybe we can sell them soap made from pig fat. ;D
We learned the true nature of Islam on 11 Sept 2001.

Show your appreciation for Islam....eat more bacon.

"Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam." (Not to us Lord, not us, but to your name give the glory)  -- Knights Templar motto

Offline powderman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32823
  • Gender: Male
Maybe we can sell them soap made from pig fat. ;D



HEH. Not sure what soap is made of today, but I used to make soap, and lard, or pig fat, is what we used, with lye of course. I ought to make some more but haven't seen any lye in years. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
http://www.illinois.gov/gov/contactthegovernor.cfm

Offline mcwoodduck

  • Trade Count: (11)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7983
  • Gender: Male
She'll never win that one. It seems these days there is a world wide effort to give the muzlims and mexicans any and everything they want. There is a reason for it I just dunno what that reason is at this point.
The question is can they have a restaraunt with out the exhaust fans.
It may be easier for her to exclude Bacon from the menue or trade traditional bacon for either Turkey or Beef bacon.
I think the end result will be that Musliums will be told to sit down shut up and practice your relegion in quiet when they tell the women of this country they need to wear a burka and be quiet.  Can you see the liberals not knowing what to do? offend the religeon of piece ( they want a peice of this or that changed for them, or the religeon of the secular womans rights groups like NOW.  The two conflict and the liberals con not apease both groups.
I think the reasons it is PC to apease Mexicans and Musliums is both get violent when told no.  The Radicals in the musliums go nuts and want to bomb and lop off heads and the Drug cartels in Mexico do the same sending street gangs to do their work here.  The Liberals in Congress want to stay out off of their hit lists.  If the boarder was closed the drugs can not come north and the $ can not flow south and the drug cartel leaders want that $ and are willing to kill anyone who get in their way.