i still have a bunch of nosler hollow points that i loaded years ago with a friend when i was introduced to dillon loaders. i used to buy them in bulk packs of 250, and they were quite reasonable if i remember correctly. seeing as how i cast my own these days, i dont have to buy the noslers anymore. if i had to buy more though, i would definately go with noslers. hornady xtps are no joke, either.