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Offline Spanky

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357 for deer
« on: October 31, 2010, 03:54:20 PM »
I'm planning on using my new 357 handi for some deer hunting this year. What factory ammo would you guys recommend? I'm not set up to reload for it yet so I need to shoot factory stuff.



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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2010, 04:31:38 PM »
a stock factory load of 158 gr jacketed hollow point should do the job fine.
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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2010, 04:43:34 PM »
Federal Premium, 140 Grain Barnes Expander.  Pure Voodoo I tell ya!  This pic is from this morning's youth hunt.
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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2010, 02:37:45 AM »
I've had hollow point fragment badly on deer, I suppose from the increased velocity that you get from a rifle.  I would advise jacketed flat point. ;)
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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2010, 03:10:56 AM »
   I would side with the Federal Premium with the 140 gr. Barnes XPB bullets.  I used handloads recently with that exact bullet to take antelope and was completly satisfied with there performance.
  I would expect the Federal loads to do as well.      Jedman
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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2010, 04:25:52 AM »
These Buffalo Bore rounds looks great on paper (see the 18.5" barrel velocities).  They have a 158gr JHP@2150fps and a 180gr hard cast at 1850fps.  Bought some of the 180gr but haven't tried them yet.  Not sure what bullet they use in the 158gr load or if it will penetrate well at rifle velocity.   

http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=20
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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2010, 05:23:32 AM »
American Eagle 158 grain JSP shot well out of my .357 Handi.
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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2010, 08:24:55 AM »
Guys, correct me if you think I'm wrong, but I don't think I want a JHP running at 2 grand or over.  I think a 158 gr. JSP might give better penetration, and hold together better.  Whitetails aren't armor clad.  It goes back to the same argument....shot placement vs. load.  I've used Hornady LEs in the .44 Mag and .45-70 with good results.  Other's claimed they fragmented and shed their jackets too early.  I have shot them through multiple gallon jugs of water, and yes they do shed their jackets.  My .357 is a Maxi, and I shoot 158 gr. Hornady XTPs occasionally in Magnum mode, but not deer hunting.  For deer, out of the Maxi, I think I'd choose a 180 gr. lead, flat nosed, gas checked bullet running 1500 to 1800 fps .....more than adequate.

Spanky, I can't believe you're not reloading for the .357.  It's one of the cheapest and easiest to do. 

I guess I'm not really qualified to make statements about deer hunting with a .357 Mag.  I've never done it, because I have better deer puterdowners.  My .38-55 has front row seat this year, followed by the .445 Supermag.  Both of these ya gotta reload for.  I looked at factory, Win. white box .38-55s this morning and just about had a heart attack....on sale at about 37 bucks per 20.  It'd cost at least ten bucks to check if it was dialed in :'(  Once you get some brass, the .357 Maxi doesn't cost more worth mentioning to reload than the .357 Mag., or for that matter the .38 Special.  I'd go Maxi it.  Get aholt a Uncle Tim and git the reamer lined up.

Spanky, gogitcherdeer.

Good luck Buddy,

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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2010, 08:48:24 AM »
I didn't reply earlier as I don't shoot factory ammo enough to make a recommendation. BUT I will say and agree with all those who advised against HP bullets !! They are simply too fragile at rifle and carbine velocities. Now solid copper bullets and 180HPs may prove OK.
 Personally I would look at who's ever 158SP shoots best. Better yet , hand load 158 XTP FP or Speer 170 gr GD bullets and NEVER worry again!!
I have shot may share with this caliber and the maxi and I know what these bullets do. With the lighter bullets you need a broadside, open, lung shot. This may be just fine and I have personally seen one doe shot there with a Federal 125HP that dropped as if hit by thors hammer. But perfect shots are not always there you.
In my homble opinion, I feel we more to the game we hunt.

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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2010, 09:24:15 AM »
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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2010, 09:53:17 AM »
I don't know if they sell loaded ammo in 357 mag or not but I really like the 180 Hornady ssp in my 357 mag an 357 max rifles the pointed bullet gives a lot better bc then the flats and jhp's
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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2010, 04:52:58 PM »
Winchester white box 125gr jsp spikehorn buck at 134 paces double lunged him and blew out his drivers side shoulder DRT!
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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2010, 05:16:41 PM »
when i got my 357 i had a few boxes of Federal 158 gr Hydra shoks around......1-1 1/4 3 shot groups at 100yds :D. They should work on a broadside lung shot at 100 yds
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Re: 357 for deer
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2010, 05:21:20 PM »
Quote from: zoner on November 01, 2010, 05:16:41 PM
when i got my 357 i had a few boxes of Federal 158 gr Hydra shoks around......1-1 1/4 3 shot groups at 100yds :D. They should work on a broadside lung shot at 100 yds

I shot a deer with this bullet from my 8" Colt Whitetailer a number of years back. Worked very well!!

At the longer ranges (100yrds) it will be on par with the ten or so yard shot I took!

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