I have been watching a group of 6 bucks all summer. 5 of them are 8 pointers and one is a 6. There is another buck, much bigger, with a narrow but very tall rack. We have perfect conditions for antlers, a record mast crop last year, and a wet spring. I set up a stand near a beaver dam today as water is scarce. I hope to fill my tag early in the archers season and go small game hunting. You Gotta believe. Shotgunner