The Auschwitz album. Can't happen here??????

[Dixie Dude]

The Jews set up the holocost museum because so many were missing after WWII.  However Hitler did want to exterminate all the slavic peoples also and repopulate the Eurasia with Germans.  He had Poles, Russians, Ukranians, all killed, as well as Jews.  His first target was Jews begining before WWII. 

[ironglow]

Sometimes it is well worth the time to delve into names cited as some kind of authority.  I took the name TM proffered in post #252 nd did a search on it.
  I typed in > Guiseppi Furioso <  ...which led me to an Alice-in-blunderland venture.  This guy does all kinds of accusations against the American-zionist "conspiracy" to foist an German/Jewish love affair as some kind of mistreatment of the Jews.  Branching from his ravings, I found a website apparently frequented by the anti-Jew brotherhood.  I noticed how the website praises the new Iranian regime...(surely a paragon of honesty, freedom and tolerance.. )..
   The brotherhood seems to revel in any way the Iranian Ayatollahs can cause injury to the Jews or the US, even attending a conference in Teheran with Imadinnerjacket..just to get the straight story you know..
     Lots of hate at this website.. At least, that's the way I saw it, what do you think ?    
     http://vho.org/aaargh/engl/actual/recla.html

[powderman]

IRONGLOW. WOW, almost sounds like yet another unreliable nutter link from you know who. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. POWDERMAN.   

[ironglow]

  Here's the big news for the brotherhood..direct from Teheran.  Bet they jumped with joy..everytime the US was condemned;
  http://globalfire.tv/nj/07en/history/end_of_holocult.htm

   Since the brotherhood thinks the Jews were lying about the holocaust, I wonder if they figured Anne Frank to be a sniviling little liar also ?
  Maybe they feel the same about Corrie Ten Boom also..

[powderman]

IRONGLOW. Ever hear the story  about those who hear but refuse to listen? POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

  TM says almost directly above in post #274;
     
What you as a holocaust monopoly promoter and a co-religionist refuse to understand, and attempt to block others from understanding, is that of the 60 million souls lost in ww2 __99.3% of the deaths were NOT jews...! Yet you claim from some chosenist god sent messenger to continue the promotion that the only deaths of the ww2 atrocity worth anything is the inflated number of jews unfortunately killed,,,and this number in all likelyhood is fraudently derived.....this is some kind of anti-gentile 'blood libel' of the first order..!

This is silly and blasphemous, as well as apostasy....anti-christian,,,and a blood libel against Christians and greater humanity, and all to produce some lunatic theft of land from Palestinians and furtherance of the NWOdor. LOL with is project...people are figuring this crap out.


I say;
    Let's see now, holocaust monopoly promoter, co-religionist, chosenist god sent messenger, anti-gentile, silly, blasphemous, apostasy, anti-Christian,   ....and not only that, but I am accused of promoting a.. " 'blood libel' against Christians and greater humanity". 
    By the measure of your name-calling here, I would sure hope you are not one who would be so hypocritical as to complain about others name-calling on you ! 
    ...And I sure hope Sarah gave you permission to use her recent term "blood libel'..

    Now let's see; since I am a gentile and a Christian..and you accuse me of being anti-gentile as well as anti-Christian..that must put me in league with the  Jihadist suicide bombers...  Do I get 72 virgins ?   

[scootrd]

What were the original questions ?

No long Diatribes needed just clearly stated questions would be my suggestion. 

 -  I got lost trying to read all the back and forth's that was occurring .

[Shu]

Genocide has happened is happening and will continue to happen. Unfortunately every continet on the globe has experienced this. Today even in the 21st century there are still leaders of countrys calling for the extermination for an entire race of people. This is pathetic at best. The fact that people try to discount what happened in nazi Germany still today are pathetic losers also.

Unfortunately Americans of Japanese decent were interned during WW2. I have visited Manzanar several times. I wouldn't call it pleasant.  There were no mass killings or torture sessions but I ask where were the Americans of German or Italian decent housed? German POWs were treated better than the American citizens in Manzanar. That also is pathetic.

These things are all in the past well except for a few pathetic losers trying to exterminate a race of peoples.

I read some silly articles where the Egyptians blamed Israel for the recent shark attacks at a resort.


Hating someone for the color of thier skin or the church they go to -where does it end?

[powderman]

I read some silly articles where the Egyptians blamed Israel for the recent shark attacks at a resort.




SHU. Yep, those Jews are really sneaky. They trained the sharks to attack foreign vacationers to make the muslims look bad. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

Yep !  ...And them sneaky Israelis are hiring vultures to spy on Saudi Arabia !

    http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/etc/110104-israeli-tagged-vulture-arrested-mossad-spy-saudi-arabia.html

[Shu]

I read about those vultures also. I found it funny.

I think the real bottom line is when we hate for no reason then we are nothing more than brute beasts.
If a guy goes to a different church that should be ok, if he tries to convert the neighborhood at sword point there is a huge problem.

I know that in Africa there are light skinned muslims raping darker skinned women to lighten the color of peoples for future generations. Does anyone else see the problem with this? Look no further than Daffur to see genocide today.

The attempt to wipe a race of peoples off the face of the earth, what kind of animals are these?

[powderman]

The attempt to wipe a race of peoples off the face of the earth, what kind of animals are these?





Easy answer, muslims. POWDERMAN. 

[billy_56081]

like mossad shark attacks, which was debunked weeks ago..
..TM7
.

Like it needed to be "debunked" 

[Shu]

Yes the Mossad shark attaks and the vulture spying does need to be debunked. Becuase government officials of Egypt and Arabia have accused the Israelis of crimes.

I never took this as a Muslim bashing or hating thread. I think calling Muslims, "muzzies" is direspectful at best.

The OP was Auschwitz couldn't happen here. It is my opinion, that people were responding with it has happened world wide and was wrong.

The nazi's killed an estimated 6 million Jews for the simple fact they were Jews. The Russians killed an estimated 10 million for the same reason. It is my continued belief that when any government tries to or has the belief that an entire race should be wiped from the face of the earth they are wrong, corrupt and are nothing more than animals. Anyone supporting those governments are in the same boat.
Alot of attrocities were comitted in the past and we should never forget them, if nothing other than to remind ourselves the we as humans can be pathetic. Today we see genocide happening and what do we do about it?

[Shu]

Why do I think the term muzzies is disrepectful, well becuase it is. Calling any religion by a nickname is disrepectful. Whether you agree with that religion or not. I have not called them Muslimes or a boil on the butt of the world and have not seen any posts that said that. I am sure there are and it is still wrong.  Many wrongs do not make anything right.

Stalin had Jews exterimnated also, I was not refering to the Bolshevick regimes.

I have gone on record many times in these forums speaking out against genocide of any kind.

I have also gone on record many times saying religous freedom is paramount in any society. Conversion at the point of a sword is wrong. Is there any fault in that?

Seems there is an axe to grind with anything said in these forums. If you stand up and say genocide is wrong and name calling is wrong you are labeled as having "kabalist occult notions".  Well I guess I have those notions.

The Logos of Christ was to "love one another as I have loved you". I am guessing that may be a bit difficult when someone offers a different point of you that doesn't line up with what you say.

[powderman]

HEH. That was rich, gave me a good laugh. The germans and hitler murdered 6 million Jews, but it wasn't their fault,  because somebody wrote a book?  . Still defending them I see. Did they ever get the guy who wrote the book forcing them to murder all those innocents?? POWDERMAN. 

[Shu]

My point being about any religion, race or group of people being called by slurs or nicknames is wrong.
I know everybody uses them and some names are worse than others and that still does not make it right.

The Israelis didn't exactly steal anyones land. They became a nation in 1948 under the guidance of the United Nations (for what that is worth). There was no Palestinian nation up until the mid 1960's when the cried foul after the 6 day war in which Egypt and Syria tried to invade Israel and got thier butts handed to them.

I don't believe TM7 we are on the same wave lentgh. I am oppossed to all genocide regardless of who it is against. I am against racism. From some of your posts I get a kind of anti jew message, I will give you the benefit of the doubt I may be reading something into that, that hopefully isn't there.

Hopefully Bosnia/Kosovo is remembered when the US stepped in to prevent Moleshiveck from commiting genocide on guess who? Thats right muslims.

Again genocide and racism are wrong. Yes christians, jews, muslims, buddhists, hindus, and countless other relegions have suffered persacuttions. Added all up wrongs will never equal a right.

There can be no denying the holacaust took place in nazi Germany. The Germans admitted to it. On top of that When I was a teenager the Pastor of the church I attended told me one time while we were fishing he was one of the ones who went into Auschwitz. He didn't count bodies but he did say it was horrorifying what one race did to another.

[Shu]

And one other thing about depleted uranium rounds being scattered about several thousand miles of dessert. I believe the United States Military answered a plea for help when Iraq invaded Kuwait. Kuwait and Saudia Arabia both asked for help. The tiny nation of Oman built huge runways that could handle all of Americas war plane types and said please use our airbases.

If my memory is correct Iraq then set fires to Kuwaits oil fields before running back home. It was less than a 24 hour ground war.

I am guessing this is not just a dream I had but actually happened. Oh yes thats right my boss came into my office and said Shu pack up you are headed to Kuwait. I said yes sir and then I was there. Yep I am pretty sure I didn't imagine that.

Why did Iraq invade Kuwait in the first place? Anyone got a guess. Why did the Saudi government ask for help also? Anyone else got a guess.

[powderman]

The Israelis didn't exactly steal anyones land. They became a nation in 1948 under the guidance of the United Nations (for what that is worth). There was no Palestinian nation up until the mid 1960's when the cried foul after the 6 day war in which Egypt and Syria tried to invade Israel and got thier butts handed to them.

I don't believe TM7 we are on the same wave lentgh.




SHU. All true, and your last statement is a major understatement. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

TM says in p[ost #295;
  "Palestinian grew to become a wheat basket of Europe"...

        ..There you go again TM...quitting history revisionism and venturing into the comedy field !

[Shu]

I do not work for an oil company. Sometimes I wish I did. lol

I work for the DoD and any opinions I have are mine and not that of DoD.

Simply put I am a mortal human with all the strengths and weaknesses given to us by the design of God. I believe that Jesus Christ became human and was crucified for my sins. He arose from the grave and gave salvation for those who would ask of it. I do my best to follow his teachings, unfortunately I am not always succesful. However I do not judge or challenge anyone elses beliefs becuase I personnaly feel judgement belongs in the hands of Jesus Christ and I am simply not qualified to do His job. I feel I have to look at myself in the mirror at least twice a day and I want to be able to look back at that guy and not be ashamed of the days deeds. For me name calling, belief system bashing, and prejudices are unacceptable. I realize people do these things and they must account to themselves and whatever God or lack there of for themselves.

I am an American citizen. I am proud to be an American citizen. I have served in uniform and appreciate all my brothers and sisters who have also. This is my country and when you start to accuse my brothers and sisters of warcrimes and such, I would invite you to go to whatever country you believe to be better and live there. Remember you are able to excercise that freedom of speech and religion becuase of the sacrifice of the few that have served.
Just remember how much freedom of speech and religion not to mention all the other great freedoms American citizens have.

PowderMan I appologize for hijaking your post.

[powderman]

SHU. Great post, I heartily agree. You hijacked nothing. POWDERMAN. 

[Pat/Rick]

 I would disagree that milosovich comitted genocide. He was at war trying to stop the muslim takeover of his nation and to keep his nation united. The illegal war that followed sided with the muslims allowing the disintegration of a nation. There were about 3,000 deaths of past US allies in the North from our bombing campaign of intervention.Did Lincoln then commit genocide when he preserved the union? If it is so important for the US to become involved in alleged issues of genocide, why have we as a nation picked and choosed which nations affairs of "genocide" to become involved with? Sure didn't see any "intervention" with Pol Pot, none in Africa in the 70's and 80's. What did the US try to gain with its intervention in the balkans? Rights to an oil pipe line,  whose contract was awarded to russia? Yugoslavia wasn't intervention, it was meddling disguised as. just my view of it. YMMV

[Shu]

Interesting about Milosheveck. I have heard both sides of that coin. Nope the US didn't try to stop Pol Pot and has done nothing in Africa in the 70s, 80s, 90's, 00, or 10 or 11.

Excellent food for thought Pat/Rick

[ironglow]

TM cites;
    Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem explains Israel’s strategy:



    Nice try TM;
   Some fellow named Issa Nakelah writes a totally partisan book and CALLS it an "ENCYCLOPEDIA"... and you accept it as unvarnished truth.  Is it not duplicitous to list one's own partisan work as an "encyclopedia"... which by it's nature and the very word indicates a comprehensive work ?  
     Take a look, the book is entirely partisan:
   http://palestine-encyclopedia.com/
  

[powderman]

What does all that wasted bandwidth have to do with the holocaust or Auschwitz??? Absolutely nothing, as always. YAWWWWWWWWNNNN. POWDERMAN. 

[ironglow]

   All our views are subjective ..and perspective makes a difference.  Here is an article which is quite even-handed..
   http://www.reference.com/browse/Palestine

   Now; back to the Auschwitz/holocaust thing.  I met a man yesterday who told his  info, which he recieved form his uncle...one of the first into the death camps.  His description fits quite well with the thousands of other accounts of the holocaust.

[billy_56081]

Of course IG would you expect anything different than searching the whole internet to find the few things that fit his agenda?

[powderman]

Now; back to the Auschwitz/holocaust thing.  I met a man yesterday who told his  info, which he recieved form his uncle...one of the first into the death camps.  His description fits quite well with the thousands of other accounts of the holocaust.



IRONGLOW. But but but, not fair getting information from folks that were actually there and know what they are talking about. POWDERMAN. 

[powderman]

YAAAAAAWWWWWNNN. POWDERMAN.