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San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« on: November 16, 2010, 03:29:26 AM »
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http://articles.latimes.com/2010/nov/02/business/la-fi-happy-meals-20101103



HEH. The stupidity just gets worse, the comedy even better. can anybody say LIBERALS????? POWDERMAN.  :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 03:43:03 AM »
Wanna see a revolution!! Lets get them to ban KY jelly in San Fag Cisco!! ;D ;D gypsyman
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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 05:09:32 AM »
GYPSYMAN. They already want to ban circumcision there too. I have a link but was afraid it might not be suitable for this site. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 05:22:36 AM »
GYPSYMAN. They already want to ban circumcision there too. I have a link but was afraid it might not be suitable for this site. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D

If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's not family unfriendly at all (http://www.mgmbill.org).

And it's not a ban on circumcision totally - what it is is a proposed ban on INFANT circumcision.  If you wanted it done when you were old enough to legally consent, then so be it.  I honestly see a good deal of merit in that proposal.  Like most, I was circumcised as a baby.  That is a choice that was never mine.  Did I want that done?  At this point the question is irrelevant - it was done with no input from me at all. 

Providing a bill that protects one's right to decide for themselves whether they want to take that step isn't a bad thing.

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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 07:34:50 AM »
The one I read would ban it on everyone under the age of 18 years old, this would of course affect the entire Jewish community, which is probably the reason for it. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 08:31:04 AM »
The one I read would ban it on everyone under the age of 18 years old

I'm pretty sure the MGM bill does too - it's not a complete ban, but it ensures that the people getting it done are making the decision themselves and that they really want it.  It's not much different than legislation regarding tattoo's.  Tattoo's are legal in most places, but you have to be 18 years old to get them, which makes perfect sense.  It's a permanent body modification that should not be taken lightly, and you should know what you're getting into before taking that step. 

Maybe the age could be lowered a bit less than 18, but whatever it is, it needs to be be cut and dry that it is each person's OWN decision, not his parents', as to whether or not he chooses to have it done. 

Any such process where someone is permanently and irreversibly modified without their consent is abhorrent.  The Chinese practiced Foot Binding for over a thousand years, permanently crippling many women for their entire lives.  Many others in Asia add Neck Rings to young girls as young as two - permanently altering their appearance.  In many places in Africa they practice "female circumcision" (I'll let you Google for your own links on that one - it's an incredibly sad and disgusting procedure). 

If they want it done when they become adults go ahead.  As with all religions though, your religious freedom does not extend into doing harm to others.  Just as you rail against Sharia Law not being applicable here because it infringes on the rights of the individual, neither should a religious custom allow the irreversible removal of parts of your reproductive organs against your will. 

And before anyone suggests more evil Islam at work, circumcision is typically practiced by your Godless Ones too.  It's not just a Jewish thing. 

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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 08:32:45 AM »
Alot of beutiful country and good people in California. When the kids were young we like many parents took the kids to disneyland. When we left for the airport the shuttle drivers comment was, "From the magic kingdom, to the tragic kingdom". Always got a good chuckle from that and appreciated the irony.  Sure would like to see more stories of the good folk from CA instead of the reflections of utopian sillyness.

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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 01:57:23 PM »
So what about the child's choice to be born at all? Ought we not to protect that as well? I mean after all, its their body.
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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 02:01:32 PM »
So what about the child's choice to be born at all? Ought we not to protect that as well? I mean after all, its their body.

What's your point?  I've already made it clear in other posts that I'm anti-abortion.

EDIT: Sorry, got so sidetracked on the circumcision stuff I forgot happy meals were being discussed.  If that wasn't targetted towards the MGM stuff, then disregard :).

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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2010, 02:31:32 PM »
So what about the child's choice to be born at all? Ought we not to protect that as well? I mean after all, its their body.

Well said!!! Somehow I don't think those on the left coast can understnd the simple connection.
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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2010, 03:32:19 PM »
So smart and just-these liberals. Ban Happy Meals to protect the children ban circumcision to protect the children and yet it is somehow ok for a child to have it's skull crushed and brains sucked out while it is still in the womb.

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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2010, 03:53:34 PM »
So smart and just-these liberals. Ban Happy Meals to protect the children ban circumcision to protect the children and yet it is somehow ok for a child to have it's skull crushed and brains sucked out while it is still in the womb.

Liberals are just too smart for the room.



YEP. I see you understand liberal logic. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2010, 04:01:38 PM »
Reminds me of New Jersey many years ago where they passed a law which made it illegal for restaurants to serve eggs sunny side up. These politicians are as nutty as fruit cakes.

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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2010, 04:12:56 PM »
So what about the child's choice to be born at all? Ought we not to protect that as well? I mean after all, its their body.

What's your point?  I've already made it clear in other posts that I'm anti-abortion.

EDIT: Sorry, got so sidetracked on the circumcision stuff I forgot happy meals were being discussed.  If that wasn't targetted towards the MGM stuff, then disregard :).

MGM, easy killer. Not everyone here is trolling with bait, ok?

Glad to hear you're anti-abortion. My point is simple; how many choices are made for a child, because they are child, by their parents? What if I convert to JW later on, can I sue my parents for getting me immunizations and having blood drawn, or medical care against my will? THere's a logical progression of the "child rights" movement, and circumcision is a test case. Should they choose their education? Should they choose their diet? Which choices are theirs to make, and which arent? And for those that are pro-choice, I don't understand how a few centimeters makes the difference in determining free agency.
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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2010, 04:46:47 PM »
MGM, easy killer. Not everyone here is trolling with bait, ok?

Glad to hear you're anti-abortion. My point is simple; how many choices are made for a child, because they are child, by their parents? What if I convert to JW later on, can I sue my parents for getting me immunizations and having blood drawn, or medical care against my will? THere's a logical progression of the "child rights" movement, and circumcision is a test case. Should they choose their education? Should they choose their diet? Which choices are theirs to make, and which arent? And for those that are pro-choice, I don't understand how a few centimeters makes the difference in determining free agency.

I think to some degree the significance, permanency, and level of the choice has to be weighed.  Happy meals - meh.  I think it's pretty sleazy of McDonalds to market fat-riddled meals to kids with toys, but in the end, I don't think legislation is needed there.  They're exercising their 1st amendment rights.  Their "speech" is pretty bad, but it's their right to do that IMHO.

Diet?  You're talking serious health benefits there, and after they hit 18 they are free to undo whatever benefits a parent chosen diet provided. 
Education?  Again, serious benefits, and you're looking at something that can't be done later in life (you can certainly learn, but the mind is far more receptive to information at younger ages).

Circumcision/male genital mutilation is different.  What we're talking about is literally cutting off part of your child's body.  The "benefits" of this procedure has long since been debunked, and as to negatives, the foreskin contains a tremendous amount of nerve tissue.  Not to get graphic on a family site, but it's the most sensitive part of the male genitalia.  Not only that, but it's a procedure that can be easily undertaken later in life if one so chooses.  People who convert to a particular religion have it done as an adult fairly regularly. 

To me, it's simply a false case of reductio ad absurdem.  It's disingenuous to say that because a child cannot make EVERY choice then a parent should have unfettered and unquestioned permission to do with a child what they will.  I personally don't have a problem with drawing a line on the permanent removal or modification of body parts - particularly for a merely aesthetic or cultural reason with no medical need present.

Lets consider it from another angle. Put aside tradition, custom, and any bias for a moment.  Notice my link above on the Chinese practice of foot-binding.  As an outsider to that culture, who sees no value in the practice, do you think that such an act should be permissible to do to a child?  I'm guessing no, and with good reason.  Now, looking back at circumcision, again, with personal biases and preferences stuck aside, do you not see the parallels?

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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2010, 04:51:47 PM »
I knew someone from teh Ivory Coast that said she looked forward to the female version, it was a rite of passage, a sign of becoming an adult. They moved to the US. Never had it done. Later when she started dating, she figured out, holy crap, dodged a bullet.

My kid's school banned candy and soft drinks in school. Even for staff. Crazy.

My sister in law would be passed out 24x7 without chain drinking Cokes. The other day, I let me kid have one as a treat. Never drank soda before. It was like giving an adult cocaine. Truly amazing to watch the instant transformation. This blast of obnoxious energy.

I found out during the last Shrek promotion that you can just buy the Happy Meal toy at McD's. Skip the meal. Kid was begging for the watches. One day I just pulled up to the drive thru and bought all 6 for maybe $12.

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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2010, 03:39:49 AM »
I think to ban Happy Meals is just as stupid as a ban on alcohol sales.  So, seems people around the south think the same way.
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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2010, 04:00:58 AM »
Alcohol sales are banned in many cities/counties already. I don't see any fuss from Jack Daniels for example.

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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2010, 04:26:40 AM »
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http://articles.latimes.com/2010/nov/02/business/la-fi-happy-meals-20101103



HEH. The stupidity just gets worse, the comedy even better. can anybody say LIBERALS????? POWDERMAN.  :D :D :D :D :D :D



NOT TO WORRY!........Happy meals will be replaced with "SAD MEALS"

Sad meals will be Soy Burgers, and Cranberry drink only.
 
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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2010, 05:28:35 AM »
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http://articles.latimes.com/2010/nov/02/business/la-fi-happy-meals-20101103



HEH. The stupidity just gets worse, the comedy even better. can anybody say LIBERALS????? POWDERMAN.  :D :D :D :D :D :D



NOT TO WORRY!........Happy meals will be replaced with "SAD MEALS"

Sad meals will be Soy Burgers, and Cranberry drink only.
 
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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2010, 07:26:15 AM »
NW HUNTER, LAKOTA. You 2 are pure evil, yeeeeeccchhh. POWDERMAN.  :D :D
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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2010, 07:34:53 AM »
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I think to ban Happy Meals is just as stupid as a ban on alcohol sales.

Definitely. Make sure to note though guys that this isn't really talking about banning the food in the happy meal.  It's talking about banning the practice of marketing it through the inclusion of a toy.  You can still sell them without the toy, or sell healthier meals with the toy.

Again, I'm not actually for this legislation, but lets make sure we're all on the same page.

Alcohol sales are banned in many cities/counties already. I don't see any fuss from Jack Daniels for example.

It's not as well publicized, but they're working on it.  I consider it a crime against humanity that alchohol sales are banned in Bourbon County, KY.  Bourbon Whiskey can't be made or sold in it's original birthplace and namesake.   :'(

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Sad meals will be Soy Burgers, and Cranberry drink only.

I'm not convinced their burgers aren't already soy.  Have you tasted one lately?  Bleagh!!!!!

For those times when I do decide to misbehave and have a burger these days, I figure I might as well go all out.  I've become fond of the Applebees Cowboy Burger.  Thing stands 6" - 8" tall before you squeeze it.  Giant patty, Cheddar cheese (I'm convinced that whoever named American Cheese was doing the country a disservice - there's nothing it does that cheddar don't do better), thick-cut bacon, big ole beer battered onion ring, and barbeque sauce. Hits the spot better than a steak for me.  Alas - I'm dieting.  That is a once per month treat at the most :(.

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Re: San fran cisco to ban happy meals.
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2010, 10:39:06 AM »
This is the same thinking from Self-righteous people that use the government to restrict sales of alcohol here in the south.  It is flat out wrong.
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2010, 11:54:08 AM »
All it does banning the toy from a happy meal is disappoint the child, it won't stop the parent from buying, or the kid from eating it. Another example of stupid from the libs. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2010, 04:05:16 PM »
All it does banning the toy from a happy meal is disappoint the child, it won't stop the parent from buying, or the kid from eating it. Another example of stupid from the libs. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

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