Rem Model 7/ Timney Trigger question

[mannyrock]

Dear Folks,

    A friend of mine has a Remington Model 7.  He is very concerned about the defective safety controversy on this rifle (which I understand is the same as for the Model 700, i.e. discharge upon clicking off the safety)  and believes that it did actually fire once when he clicked off the safety.

    I advised him that it is my understanding that the alleged defective safety problem can be fixed by simply replacing the factory trigger with a new Timney trigger unit and safety.     I have two questionsa:

     1. Was my advice correct?

      2.  And, one complaint I have about the Timney's is that the safety switch always seems mushy and soft going back and forth, with no hard "click" to let you feel it going in and out of position.   Is there another brand of replacement trigger that has a more positive click?

   P.S. I am not really interested in any debate about whether the Remington safety issue is true or false.   Simply assume it is true.  :-)



 

   

[bufflobob]

Manny -- I also recently watched the special on the Remington  safety issue. I own a 721 in 30-06 and want to like wise get a Timney... was thinking about calling the Timney people to discuss with them the whole issue. I have, for what it's worth, a Timney I installed myself on a P14 that I rebarrelled with wildcat, and am happy with it.

Take care and happy and SAFE hunting and shooting ----Bob.

[gunnut69]

The M7 should have the capability to open the bolt (to clear the chamber of a live round) while the safety remains 'on'. This negates any problems with the trigger. The difference between the Timney and the Remington trigger are few but the major one is a part in the Reminton trigger that's absent in the Timney. Called a 'trigger connector'. The Timney units dispense with this piece and rely on the hardened trigger and sear to do the job. If this piece hangs or is damaged it can fail to reset when pulled, including if the safety is on. If that is the case then when the safety if moved to the 'off' position the rifles sear if release and it fires. If anu of these triggers fails they should be returned to Remington for their attention. The Timneys lacking the extra part don't have the problem, of course all triggers and safety mechanisms have some failures..

[jhm]

     I have a couple Remingtons equiped with Jewel triggers a little more costly than a Timney but I like them better as a replacement, neither was replaced because of any defect or failure just wanted lighter triggers without messing with the original triggers.   Jim

[gunnut69]

Factory Remington triggers should never be worked to a weight lower than about
2 3/4-3 pounds. Below that level most will cause problems unless heavily modified at which point replacement is the better measure for ecoaomies sake. I also always advise against oil on stock triggers. Use instead graphite or other dry lube. This is extra important in the Remington trigger as this is their really flaw, they are made dirt sensitive by the connectore link..

[1sourdough]

 I put a Timney trigger in my Model 7 Predator. 1st of all Timney does not make a  trigger specifically for the Model 7, which has a different bolt release than the 700. The trigger itself fits fine, it's the bolt release that's different. I actually called Timney about 2 months ago & talked to them about this. The guy said he has a Timney on his model 7. I did as he advised. If I wanted to go with the Timney, remove the bolt release link off the trigger & remove the bolt by reaching in from the rear with a knife blade or small screwdriver. I just push down manually on the bolt release, to get the bolt out. I did remove just a touch of the stock in the area of the safety to get proper fit. I also took a tiny amount out in front of the trigger opening on the stock. Anyway, the trigger is so much better than my 'X-Mark Pro' that I can live with the more involved bolt release.

[gunnut69]

I've got a 'how to' book around here somewhere that contained an artivle that outlined adding a button bolt release to a Remington 600. It was a neat bit of fabrication, including an oval escutcheon with a groove for the button which activated the blade type bolt realease on the left side of the action.. Don't remember the book though.. It would be doable if one had the time.