Author Topic: Tulammo questoin (Read 1968 times)

bigbird09 · « **on:** January 01, 2011, 05:14:26 PM »

recently acquiring a handi in .223 I have been lookin for cheap ammo to plink with and maybe some hunting. I came across some .223 from tulammo in cheaper than dirt, and also seen it was at a local wal-mart for like $4/box and wondered if anyone has used it and what they thought of it, unfortunetly i've only seen it in FMJ so I prolly won't do much hunting with it, but mainly for a plinking round. lmk what you think,
Thanks,
Levi

colberjs · « **Reply #1 on:** January 01, 2011, 05:49:19 PM »

I tried it and it was horrible for me. From what I have read it is made in the same factory as Wolf ammo in Russia. It has a reputation for being dirty. I could barely keep three shots on the same page with it and personally will never touch the stuff again.

Hope this helps.

bigbird09 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 01, 2011, 06:45:23 PM »

thanks for the reply, I did read somewhere about it being russian ammo, but thought it said ex military ammo, also haven't had to many problems with wolf ammo in sks's but haven't really shot one all that much. either way, good to know.

spikehorn · « **Reply #3 on:** January 02, 2011, 05:02:27 AM »

At $4.00 a box try some and see

bigbird09 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 02, 2011, 05:40:47 AM »

ya given the absence of replys (which i know some of it is because the post has only been up for a few hours), but i figured I would bite the bullet and pick up some to have another opinion out there for the next person that wanders through asking.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** January 02, 2011, 06:03:47 AM »

I'm surprised Wreckhog didn't reply, but he likes Tula 55gr FMJ in his 223 Handi, I wouldn't recommend it in an older ejector barrel, but an extractor should handle it Ok, accuracy may be another issue entirely tho.

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,222875.msg1099223450.html#msg1099223450

Quote from: wreckhog on December 20, 2010, 10:47:05 AM

Steel case Russian Tula 55 grain FMJ is about 1MOA out of mine. My most accurate Handi. I have tried reloading the steel case for kicks. Various $$ varmint bullets with Fed Match primers and different combos of IMR4895. Shoots fine, not as accurate as the cheap stuff....lol

Mike38 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 02, 2011, 12:24:24 PM »

I shoot the black box Wolf 55 grain steel cased ammo in my .223 Handi Rifle heavy barrel. Groups at 100 yards usually end up around 2 inches, but one round out of ten or so ends up way outside that 2 inch group. I’m sure it’s the ammo. It’s not bad for plinking.

I did have to polish the chamber. Before the chamber polish, about every other fired steel case stuck. I used 600 grit sand paper, then 1000 grit. Extracts nice now.

With my reloads, 55 grain V-Max bullets, I can get less then one inch groups as long as I do my part.

BluDino · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2011, 12:45:00 AM »

I don't have a .223 but I took a chance on it with my 1911. It was surprisingly accurate and hit to point of aim, unlike most other brands. Good cheap ammo...

wreckhog · « **Reply #8 on:** January 03, 2011, 02:01:59 AM »

Mine loves the stuff. Boxer primed too. Wish I could reload for cheaper than I pay for Tula white box, but I can't. Handis are very individual creatures though.

bigbird09 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2011, 01:55:23 PM »

white box ya say? where did you find that, the only stuff I have seen is in a black box. I did pick up a box the other day was well as a couple more boxes of rem umc. I'll try to get some plicking in tomorrow to finalize my sight in and try them out and post up my results.

wreckhog · « **Reply #10 on:** January 04, 2011, 12:24:52 PM »

Gun shows always seem to have it. Looks like this except .223

bigbird09 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2011, 12:17:57 PM »

cool I'll have to keep an eye out for the, I do believe I seen that box, but it was like 9mm, but no .223, for some reason its hard to find much variation on .223 ammo around me, its mostly 22-250.

marine · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2011, 01:07:01 PM »

I have a .223 handi and shoot nothing but PMC Bronze FMJ through it for the past couple of years. It still does the trick on groundhogs and squirrels. You might give it a try. Its around $7 a box.

bigbird09 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2011, 06:04:07 PM »

Just a little update. I finally got out to put a 5 round on target and really was pretty impressed. I did do a little sanding on the stock to "float" it in front of the forend bolt lug, but my sandpaper petered out before I could get it fully floated. Anyways, I went out and took both bags so I could get more support on the post to take some of the variable off me and ended up with about 1.5 moa groups except for the first clean, cold bore shot was way out there, so Idk what kinda cleaning this gun is going to get. I left the target in the car and its chilly snowy and muddy out so I'll did it out and get pics up later. For me at a little over 4 dollars a box the tulammo in .223 is going to be a good plinking round and maybe a light hunting round.

Levi

petemi · « **Reply #14 on:** January 18, 2011, 01:53:27 AM »

For some reason, I believe I heard, I don't remember where, that FMJ 7.62x39s were good wolf medicine around here....could that be

I can't imagine why anyone would want to shoot the cuddly pooches.

Pete

bigbird09 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 18, 2011, 09:46:31 AM »

coyote VS sks is a nasty little show down that will go to the sks on almost every encounter. Problem is that that .30 cal bullet from the 7.62x39 has a little more wieght and velocity behind it. So idk if fmj from a .223 will be as effective, but I would be comfortable taking the shot.

bigbird09 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 18, 2011, 10:45:19 AM »

As promised here is the pics, the flyer in the top right was the cold bore shot on a clean barrel. This was at 100yrd so I'm pretty happy with it so far, might put a few more clicks up on the scope, but other than that I would be comfortable taking it on a yote trip.

Flynmoose · « **Reply #17 on:** January 18, 2011, 01:13:09 PM »

I notice that Wolf black box ammo has been mentioned. I think the bullets
are copper coated steel. If that is so, is there any concern about premature
barrel wear? I wouldn't want to damage a good shootin Handi barrel!
FM

Lon371 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 18, 2011, 02:42:49 PM »

Quote from: bigbird09 on January 18, 2011, 10:45:19 AM

As promised here is the pics, the flyer in the top right was the cold bore shot on a clean barrel. This was at 100yrd so I'm pretty happy with it so far, might put a few more clicks up on the scope, but other than that I would be comfortable taking it on a yote trip.

Looks like a critter getter to me

Lonny

OldSchoolRanger · « **Reply #19 on:** January 19, 2011, 08:58:02 AM »

I've used Wolf Ammo for years, in the following calibers: 9mm, 7.62x39, .223mm. Never had any problems. Last year I purchased 3,000 rounds of what I thought was 9mm Wolf Ammo from an online retailer. When I opened the shipping box, I was surprised to see white boxes rubber stamped "Tula". I thought it was a mistake, when I opened up the individual box, I saw that the headstamp stated "Wolf". I did a little asking and a friend of mine told me that Wolf was the commercial name for ammo, manufactured at the Russian munitions plant in Tula, Russia. Thus the Tula brand name.
Tula's quality control is NOT good. After firing 1 1/2 boxes of the Tula ammo, the Glock 19 being used blew apart, luckily no one was injured. I had to send the pistol back to Glock for repair, explaining what happened. The frame had to be replaced. Wolf paid to have the pistol repaired. I sent the unfired 9mm ammo back to the retailer and they let me exchange the rest of the unfired ammo for American ammo. I never had problems with the Wolf branded ammo. I still use the ammo in my SKS and AR. Just wanted to let the readers of this thread know about my experience with "Tula".

bigbird09 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2011, 10:49:15 AM »

Ive got aout 8 rnds shot so far, but I will keep this in mind. Apparently there isn't to much trouble with it, our walmart hat about 50 boxes of it and a week later it was gone, and its still being offered by sever major retailers both instore and shelf, but I will keep leary. Also I wanted to note that I have only had one split case so far, with the 7.62x39 wolf in our sks we tend to get quite a few, but it could just be the caliber difference as well.

sitdwnandhngon · « **Reply #21 on:** January 19, 2011, 02:57:54 PM »

I just ordered 200 rounds of Tula in .223 55gr from Cheaper than dirt and 40 rounds of 62gr to try out in my new Ultra Varmint.

All the reviews (and there's a ton of them) on the page say it's the best bang for your buck. And at 3.50 a box it is certainly worth a try.

If it shoots well after the barrel is broken in I'll order a bunch more, if not, I'll sell it to someone with an AR.

I don't reload so saving cases isn't much of an issue for me, I save them anyway and give them away or sell them to reloaders, and I guess some guys even reload the steel ones, even though it's hard on the dies.