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Offline 16gaugeducks

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Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« on: January 07, 2011, 06:39:53 AM »
Hello everyone, I am new to Graybeard Outdoors.
After getting my Savage model 99 in 250 Savage (250-3000) reblued recently I decided to semi-retire it.  Now I am looking to get another 250 Savage.  I know Savage makes their models 14 & 16 in 250, but I like the look, balance, and price of the Handi Rifle.  Since 250 Savage is not included in the NEF caliber selection, how do I get a Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?  Thanks
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2011, 07:23:48 AM »
That will cost you, plain and simple  :(.
One way is a custom 'stub' barrel built up on a shotgun (or rifle) barrel that properly fits your frame. The breech section c/w underlug to the hinge pin is a donor to bore,fit, and chamber another barrel into it. This way you can choose a barrel length and taper to fit your ideas.
See the FAQs and search this forum on stub projects, it has been done quite a bit, and there are folks here who will fill you in more  :).
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2011, 09:03:43 AM »
Welcome! A good rebore/rechamber of a suitable existing H&R barrel will work just fine, there are several members here with .25 cal Handis done with just a rebore and rechamber, Graybeard has a 25-20 done from a Hornet by site sponsor Wayne York of Oregunsmithing,  Fred has a 257 Roberts done from a 223 Ultra, Wayne York has done many, many rebores for members here including several for me, plan on about $325-$350 plus the cost of any donor parts for either a stub or rebore.

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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2011, 09:22:48 AM »
Sounds Spendi for a Handi.


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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2011, 09:33:56 AM »
Every once in a while a custom barrel turns up here (thats how I got my 25-35), but you gotta be quick!
Since you already have some stuff, and like .25s, how about the 25-06 model? Only one more set of dies and load it to whatever power level you want (and the price is right!).
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2011, 09:45:23 AM »
What is the difference between a re-bore and a re-chamber?
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2011, 10:05:52 AM »
A rechamber just enlarges the chamber on a barrel that already has the correct bore for the newly rechambered cartridge, a rebore cuts the bore of an existing barrel larger to be suitable for the newly rechambered cartridge. H&R doesn't make any barrel that is suitable for just a rechamber to 250 Savage, the only .25 cal they make is the 25-06 which already has a bigger chamber than the 250 Savage. That means the only way to have a 250 Savage H&R is to rebore and rechamber a smaller chambered and bored H&R barrel like a hornet or 223, or have a stubbed barrel made.

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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2011, 03:09:21 PM »
For that project, Wayne told me he wants a 22 Hornet barrel to start with. The barrel must fit your reciever, of course, so you either buy a Hornet rifle, or you send Wayne your reciever so he can fit the barrel to it.

It seemed to me about a $400 dream project on a $250 rifle. I really, really, want a 250 Savage, but at that price I will most likely have to forget the dream, and just get a 243 barrel fitted to my receiver by H&R. ( I can just keep telling myself "a 243 is almost the same as a 250, a 243 is almost the same as a 250...)
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 05:49:22 PM »
I don't understand Wayne's reasoning for the Hornet only, the 223 is dimensionally fine for a rechamber to 250 Savage, the AmmoGuide rechamber guide says it's good to go with a rebore, swap out the ejector/extractor for a 30-06 and it's done. ???

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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2011, 08:03:37 PM »
Quote from: petemi on January 07, 2011, 09:22:48 AM
Sounds Spendi for a Handi.

What do you expect? You are gettinga custom brand new match grade barrel.
A march grade barrel for a bolt action fitted and chambered is $550 US.

You want to have a barrel that shoots you have to spend some money.

I have two rebored rifles with upgraded wood and barrels shaped octagon.
Top isa 257 Roberts, bottom a 6x47. Both shoot less than 1/2" groups at 100. Two deadly rifles for deer and varmints. Are they worth the extra money? You bet they are.

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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2011, 08:06:24 PM »
Quote from: Fred M on January 07, 2011, 08:03:37 PM
I have two rebored rifles with upgraded wood.

And very nicely upgraded, I must say!!  ;)

Tim
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2011, 08:23:24 PM »
Thanks Tim.
I get peed off when a bunch of cheap scates think they can get a custom
caliber Handi for nothing, and Wayne York's work is very reasonable and good.
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2011, 09:28:59 PM »
Wonderful round in a Savage 99.  Hold out for a 99.  They are out there.  For a user, 99A Saddle Guns are the ONE.  Good luck on your quest.
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2011, 01:50:41 AM »
Buying an aftermarket high quality barrel is something I thought about for years. Finally did it about 10 years ago and then wondered why I had cheated myself out of such an ENJOYABLE piece of machined metal for so long!!
Don't put it off any longer. Aftermarket barrels for ANY rifle are an experience a rifle shooter should indulge himself [and his finances] IN~!
My .250 Savage Ackley Improved is on a Ruger 77 Mark II action. It shoots so well that you'd call me less than honest if I told you how SMALL it will shoot Nosler Ballistic tips [100 grain].
I've fitted several barrels to my rifles [CZ 527s, Ruger 77s, Remington 7/700s].
You MUST try a REALLY GOOD ACCURATE barrel~! You too might wonder why you dragged your feet for so long!!
It's a bit addictive to shoot groups of 1/2" and under ; )

BTW, there are several companys that make/weld lugs to Contender actions, I wonder why not at least one or two for the Handi Rifles? Possibly because the rifles need to be fitted specifically to each?
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2011, 02:23:18 PM »
Probably the reason for the Hornet for rebore is that the shorter cartridge allows more room for the rifling cutter to settle down to a smooth cut.  That should give smotther rifling in the throat area.
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2011, 02:33:28 PM »
Maybe that's more critical with the smaller bore, but Wayne has done several rebores for me, the last was a 260 Rem from a .243 which has the same length chamber.

Tim
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2011, 04:15:34 AM »
The rest of the gun is just a platform for the barrel, the part that really does the job intended. In building muzzleloaders I have recommended often to people that they buy the best barrel they can, then the best lock. After that, even if mounted in a 2x4 its gonna be a shooter.
BTW, on cartridge rifles: The best barrel chambered in a less than perfect, concentric way is likely to not shoot as well as a decent barrel chambered well. Do not scrimp on who chambers your expensive custom barrel. Bear in mind, though, that not everyone who charges a lot does it right. Have it done by someone who 'cares'.
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2011, 02:22:59 AM »
Would it make more sense to forgo the 250 Savage and rechamber a 243 to 260 Rem?  Would this be an easier project and a cheaper project?
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Re: Handi Rifle in 250 Savage?
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2011, 05:17:42 AM »
I don't think that it would be any easier, and certainly no cheaper, I'd get what you want.  ;)

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