Author Topic: Tom Delay-"Peolpe are unemployed because they want to be." (Read 3457 times)

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #30 on:** January 17, 2011, 09:26:49 AM »

Problem is, there aren't going to be any construction jobs or manufacturing jobs in the next year or two. They might have to take hamburger jobs or Walmart jobs until the economy picks back up. We overbuilt homes in the last 10 years because of letting people buy homes who really couldn't afford them. Manufacturing is gone unless we start slapping tariffs on Chinese goods.

I work in natural gas distribution.
1) We could bring a lot of jobs back to America and eliminate all imported oil by requiring fleets to switch to natural gas for fuel. My company uses natural gas vehicles. I'm talking postal trucks, UPS trucks, city garbage and construction trucks, city buses, utility trucks, etc. This would cut 40% of oil imports and keep money here at home.

2) Government "stimulus" money could be used to start coal gassification factories to make synthetic diesel from coal. We could begin switching our new cars to diesel because you get 27 gallons of diesel from a barrel of oil vs 20 gallons of gasoline and diesels get better gas mileage. Diesel cars also cost less than hybrids and will probably last longer. (batteries have to be replaced).

3) Stimulus money should have also been used to kick start new nuclear power plants to replace coal if coal diesel is used in cars.

Lots of ways just in energy to stimulate job growth NOT bailing out cities who can't balance their budgets and bailing out banks. Infrastructure is already in place for natural gas and diesel. With hybrids and electrics, you will have to have more power plants and you can't recharge them in 15 minutes. You can refuel a natural gas vehicle in 15 minutes.

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #31 on:** January 17, 2011, 09:55:01 AM »

A group has been wanting to put a LNG facility in Astoria, OR, with a pipeline towards Portland. Folks don't want that either, They don't want oil drilling/exploration, they don't want nuke power plants,wind farms, hydro electric dams, vehicles that guzzle. I think that there is a crowd who just doesn't like anything. Maybe them folks that do enjoy all of those benefits from having an infrastructure should give up their modern conveniences ? computers, tooths, berries,etc. Yeah, not gonna happen. But they sure scream about how bad for the planet everything is don't they.

Don't look for the gooberment to put any backing to the black evil coal, obummer said he would kill the coal industry and is doing so.

Yep DD there is alot the gooberment could do, the metro sexual socialist jerks they're in bed with won't hear of it. Is gooberment mostly the utopian idealist idiots from the 60's protest crowds?? I do wonder.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #32 on:** January 17, 2011, 10:19:59 AM »

Kind of stupid also. We have an 800 year supply of coal, 200 year supply of natural gas, 200 year supply of UNTAPPED oil. We need to use this while we continue to develop a quick charging cheap electric car. Hybirds aren't cheap, they cost more than diesel. Germans are more practial than us, they switched 85% of their vehicles to diesel over the last 20 years and cut their oil imports in half. Also 50% of their power is nuclear and about 10-15% is wind off the North Sea. France is 85% nuclear powered. We are falling behind even the socialists states of Europe like France. Germany is the least socialist in Europe and they are thriving.

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #33 on:** January 17, 2011, 03:52:51 PM »

Yep. The answers are right in front of them but nobody wants a solution. Hard to figure isn't it? Maybe their just happy whining about stuff.

ironglow · « **Reply #34 on:** January 19, 2011, 01:55:36 AM »

  As I have said over and over.. The metro-sexual, Fabian socialist, "progressives" want to DESTROY the United States..economically, morally, spiritually and even in it's sovereign territory. Let me demonstrate;

ECONOMICALLY:
   Who wants to impose "cap & tax", gross inheritance taxes, tax corporations out of the country, shut down the coal industry, heap unreasonable regulations upon our industries, spend trillions of dollars (which our children & grandchildren will have to pay) on goofy bail out schemes. Who is allowing billions of US dollars every year to be sent for mid-east oil every year...so it can be shot back at us ? Who closed many areas of oil-rich western lands to our own oil producers and forced the drilling rigs to leave the gulf ...taking thousands of jobs with them? Who gave Red China "most favored nation" trading status in the mid 1990's ? Who is it that changed NASA's mission from space exploration ..to a Muslim self-esteem organization ?
   ..And on and on...

MORALLY;
   Who is in favor of open homosexual promiscuity, school children provided convenience condoms, and free abortions on request ? Who is unwilling to call such things even wrong..say nothing about being a grevious sin ? Who is it that fights any attempts to teach these school children abstinence and self-respect, in some cases the ONLY moral training they get ? Who is willing to lay ever heavier tax burdens upon the backs of honest working people..to support those lazy ones who REFUSE to work ? Who keeps forcing experiments in 'social engineering" experiments upon our military, hoping to DE-moralize it ? Who is it that is trying to open up the drug trade by "legal?" maneuvering ?

   SPIRITUALLY:
  Who is it that wants no mention of God in government, nor the ten commandments posted in court rooms (even though they are posted in the SCOTUS) ? Who is continually working to remove crosses from cemeteries, hilltops and any other place the public can view them ? Who is continually trying to harass small villages which feature a nativity display ? Which president in two speeches about a week apart said; "we are no longer a Christian nation" and then stated that we are "the largest Muslim nation" in the west ? Who was it that passed a law saying churches must not speak about politics from the pulpit ? Who is it that disregards their own law when Jesse Jackson and his ilk not only preach politics in "churches' but even collects campaign money from them ?

SOVEREIGN TERRITORY:
  Who is it that wants free access without hindrance, to thousands of illegal imigrants ? Who is it that wants them to be allowed to drive, vote and avoid being deported for crimes against Americans ? Who is it that wants them to hold jobs here and send money out of the country unfettered and without even being taxed ? Who is it that fights attempts (as in Arizona) to secure our borders ? Who is it that wants to bring war criminals to the United States, rather than to leave them in a prison on foreign, neutral soil ? Which 'justice dept' is it that refuses to prosecute black Muslim thugs who intimidate Americans from casting their own vote ?

  If you still don't get it... Please tell me one bill the feds passed in the last 2 years that benefitted the US in any way..economically, morally, spiritually or in regards to her sovereign territory.. Come on..just one !

  I say they want to DESTROY the US..prove me wrong !!

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #35 on:** January 19, 2011, 07:56:50 AM »

I say they want to DESTROY the US..prove me wrong !!

But since I agree pretty much whole heartedly, I won't waste my time looking for reasons to disagree.

Kinda be nice for the utopian bound lefty,liberal,metro's crowd to get on a ship and sail off to discover a new land. Is Antarctica still open? Lets see now, no forest to clear cut, no wind farms, nuke facilities, hydro electric dams, gas guzzlers (per se), power lines, livestock farms,military,coal mines,refineries,oil drilling ops, or pretty much anything else the mentally disturbed left protest and whine about, sounds about just right. That coupled with all of THEIR money to fund social services for the betterment of their community, should yield the blissful utopian empire they all crave. Where can I send donations for the purchase of a ship and greetings of bon voyage to??

Junior1942 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 19, 2011, 12:59:37 PM »

Spin, BS, spin, BS, on and on ad infinitum..... In different words, half truths, untruths, and outright lies.... This one for example: "Which 'justice dept' is it that refuses to prosecute black Muslim thugs who intimidate Americans from casting their own vote ?"

That's been proven wrong almost as much as the birth certificate lie. Those "thugs" left when asked by the cops. Several prosecutors searched in vain for a way to arrest them and the result was always the same: They committed no crime.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #37 on:** January 20, 2011, 06:55:20 AM »

Birth Certificate hasn't and will not go away. Hawaii's governor said recently that there is no record of the "official" long version of his birth certificate. Said they can't find it. Hmmm. Maybe the birthers were right. Also, the birth certificate stuff was dug up by Clinton right before the DEMOCRATIC primary. Hmmmm. Yes the thugs in Phillie were not prosecuted. These are not lies or half truths. Check the news stories. Obama is out to "change" (destroy) America. Mark my words here.

1) Food prices are going to increase this year causing panic in much of the world. One is because of Obamas requirement to use methonal made from corn in 10% of the gasoline which could be used to feed chickens, pigs, and cows for our consumption.

2) Home forclosures are going to increase this year causing more problems in the housing market.

3) Government spending, unless the republicans can slow it down, will cause inflation, especially if China can't or won't buy more government bonds (borrowed money from China).

4) We are at 14 trillion debt, if we reach 20 trillion, we are bankrupt as a nation.

Some of you guys on the left need to take some economic courses at a local Jr. College. Government can't solve everything, it is the problem. Government out of hand is like the Weimar republic of Germany in the 1920's, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, only bad things happen when government gets too big.

5) Health care cost will continue to rise because of the conveluted government health care bill with all the junk attached to it.

6) Gasoline prices will increase because of the ban on Gulf oil drilling causing drillers to move somewhere else. Even with lifting, it takes months to get the drillers back, thus more imported oil.

7) With the recent EPA closing of coal mines, coal prices will increase causing electric prices to increase as the power companies will have to use more fuel oil or natural gas to produce electricity.
This will further cause oil price increases, and natural gas price increases.

Unemployment will remain high for the above reasons. More people will retire early and/or the baby boomers begin to retire, it may cause it to drop, but it will increase the strain on social security because the selfish baby boomers didn't prepare and save for retirement. Only 25% have 401-k plans or a pension. Most opted out and will have to keep working or depend on social security. Reagan saw the problems with retirement coming and started the 401-k plan.

9) People can't continue to pay higher taxes, nor can corporations, they will move more industry overseas.

The only advantage of higher prices and devaluing of the dollar, is foreign products will cost more, thus maybe causing some industry to return. Don't look for it anytime soon.

Junior1942 · « **Reply #38 on:** January 20, 2011, 10:02:28 AM »

DD, let's look at just one of your list of problems I guess you think Democrats caused: "9) People can't continue to pay higher taxes, nor can corporations, they will move more industry overseas. "

Your favorite Republican president, GWB, said, "Outsourcing jobs is good for America." What he meant was, Outsourcing jobs is good for the bottom lines of the corporations who finance Republican candidates.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #39 on:** January 21, 2011, 10:03:41 AM »

When Bush was in office, we had a 3-4% unemployment rate, basically full employment, some companies needed more workers, so outsourcing was the only alternative. Even in WWII we had 2% unemployment. I have 7 children all adults, all have jobs except one, he has been on unemployment for almost 2 years now. He didn't want to find a job as long as the unemployment checks kept coming in. He said he would find a job when it starts running out. I know this is happening with a lot of people. This son is 29 and knows better, but he don't care. All he wants to do is hunt and fish, and not work.

Junior1942 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 21, 2011, 12:52:45 PM »

Quote from: Dixie Dude on January 21, 2011, 10:03:41 AM

When Bush was in office, we had a 3-4% unemployment rate, basically full employment, some companies needed more workers, so outsourcing was the only alternative. ......

It's amazing how you guys will find ways to justify your beliefs.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #41 on:** January 21, 2011, 04:23:08 PM »

It's a fact, most economists agree 4% unemployment is full employment because there are always about 2-3% changing or looking for a job at any one time. Young people entering the market, mothers returning to work after raising kids, that type of people will always keep the unemployment at 3-4% at any one time. 5-7% has been the average since WWII. Above 7% is bad, above 10% is bordering on a depression. Below 4% is full employment. Immigrants are taking a lot of jobs that were once held by Americans. I see it every day in my business. Blacks once held the low end construction jobs, now it is mostly Hispanic immigrants (legal and illegal). That is why we must stop illegal immigration.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 21, 2011, 06:14:36 PM »

Dixie, you have to understand that the liberal parasites have no idea what reality is. They are the product of the dumbing down of America.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #43 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:22:42 AM »

Part of that 3-4% (full employment) is also like if a husband or wife gets transfered to another part of the country, the spouse has to quit their job and find another at the new location. I've had it happen with my company. They transfer people to where the action is. Spouses have to go with and find another job.

pmeisel · « **Reply #44 on:** January 23, 2011, 04:29:48 AM »

"most economists agree 4% unemployment is full employment because there are always about 2-3% changing or looking for a job at any one time"

Actually -- many observers think that due to the increase in required education/skills for technology jobs, and the large relatively uneducated workforce, that in the future 6%-7% will be more like normal -- non-tech, traditional workers will have long waits between employment stints. Fewer jobs for construction, traditional manufacturing trades, general labor for the next 20 years....

My present employer turns away 3 out of 4 applicants on average. Either no HS diploma/GED, felony conviction, can't pass a drug test, or don't show up on time for interview.

crustylicious · « **Reply #45 on:** January 31, 2011, 11:33:35 AM »

Wonder if he's declaring that people go to prison because they want to.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #46 on:** January 31, 2011, 01:41:48 PM »

Well, you do have choices in this life. If you choose a life of crime, eventually you go to prison. It's your choice. Same with work. If you want to work bad enough, you will work at a hamburger flipping job. When I was young, unemployment only lasted a few weeks.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 31, 2011, 01:47:07 PM »

Well it just goes to show you how out of touch our liberal parasites are. If you had ever worked in law enforcement or corrections you would know that there are many who want to go to jail or prison.

Everyday Ron White is proven correct.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #48 on:** January 31, 2011, 01:55:16 PM »

Yep, around Thanksgiving and Christmas, wino's and low lifes shoot birds at LEO's in a county near mine just to go to jail over the holidays to get a free Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner.

crustylicious · « **Reply #49 on:** January 31, 2011, 03:51:35 PM »

You are aware that Tom DeLay is going to prison?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/10/AR2011011000557.html

I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have the ability.
Ron White

torpedoman · « **Reply #50 on:** February 01, 2011, 02:44:23 PM »

Kinda makes me wonder if this guy ever had a real job were he was paid by the hour and fired if he did not do what he was suppose to do when he was suppose to do it.

Pat/Rick · « **Reply #51 on:** February 02, 2011, 04:51:19 PM »

Yep. ALL them folks that worked in oil exploration and drilling in the gulf are so eager to be out of work, their end is closing in on them. Them folks in Boardman ,OR at the coal fire power plant are so eager to be unemployed they can hardly wait for the place too close this year.

Quote from: Junior1942 on January 20, 2011, 10:02:28 AM

DD, let's look at just one of your list of problems I guess you think Democrats caused: "9) People can't continue to pay higher taxes, nor can corporations, they will move more industry overseas. "

Your favorite Republican president, GWB, said, "Outsourcing jobs is good for America." What he meant was, Outsourcing jobs is good for the bottom lines of the corporations who finance Republican candidates.

Yep, that includes GM sending another 540 million to mexico for plant expansion. All them unions donations to the DNC have nothing to do with their bottom lines right? Once again, demicans/republicrats different train, same destination. Shake 'em up, vote third party.I double dog dare ya.