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« on: December 15, 2003, 06:19:58 PM »
Inline Muzzleloading’s “2003” Blowback Awards


As another record setting muzzleloading year draws to a close, it seems appropriate to single out the companies that have offered products that are the most influential, the most surprising in performance, or have distinguished themselves in other ways. Like a favorite color, meal, or movie, these citations are a matter of opinion—as all reviews are, by nature. Here are not just my opinions, but also reflections based on feedback from throughout the country. While subjective, it may point up items that are worthy of your future consideration.

MOST INFLUENTIAL RIFLE OF THE YEAR

The Thompson Omega .50 caliber wins this one, as it has satisfied more new owners than any other single muzzleloader. Since its introduction in 2002, it has been tweaked a bit in barrel quality, breechplug design, and trigger uniformity. Due to it ease of maintenance, and externally sealed action—it is the type of hassle free gun that more buyers have voted their preference for than any other style of inline. In no way is it the “only” good gun, or even my personal favorite. However, nearly two years after its introduction, Thompson just cannot make them fast enough—and every major inline company is scrambling to offer their own alternative.

SCOPE OF THE YEAR

The surprise scope of the year is from a company that most never even heard of just a few years ago: Sightron. By virtue of its reasonably light weight, compact size, excellent glass, moderate price, remarkably good adjustments, and terrific warranty: the Sightron SII 3 x 9 x 42 is a scope that is as good as can be had in its price range. Honorable mention goes to the Bushnell Elite 3200 3 x 9 x 40. Rainguard, quick focus, titanium tube, all combined with an economical price makes the Elite 3200 worth anybody’s look. The Sightron still beats it optically, by weight, and by repeatable adjustments, but by a margin that many have not been able to discern. Let your own eyes be the judge of that.

MOST IMPROVED MUZZLELOADING COMPANY

By stepping up to the plate with improved barrel proofs, better quality control, vastly improved manuals and customer service—Austin & Halleck has taken their soft shooting, curly mapled 420 inlines to a new level. The Austin & Halleck rifles always shot straight, now they are produced by North American Arms, a company that walk and talks straight as well.

PROPELLANT OF THE YEAR

Higher velocities, less fouling, no sulfur—Hodgdon’s “Triple Seven” has been the powder hit of 2003, with their pellet forms of T 7 gaining favor as well. No ascorbic acid / sugar based powder has ever had the acceptance that Triple Seven has quickly gained, nor the increased performance.

BULLET OF THE YEAR

Precision Rifle Custom Muzzleloading Bullet’s “Dead Center” saboted muzzleloading bullets are an easy choice. When Knight won the NMLRA world championship two years in a row with the P.R. .40 / 50 “QT” sabot, folks began to take notice. The Dead Center line comes in more weights than any other muzzleloading bullet, in more calibers, is the most accurate by weight bullet available, and has the highest ballistic coefficient of any muzzleloading projectile made by weight. It offers deeper penetration than its predecessor, the QT, and even higher ballistic coefficients. For a long time, the notion was that thicker petaled sabots were not accurate. Due to the joint efforts of Cecil Epp and Del Ramsey of MMP, here we have the “exception that proves the rule.”

ACCESSORY OF THE YEAR

The lowly ramrod, often neglected by manufacturers and shooters, is now better than ever due to the XS Sight Systems’ “Power Rod.” Already a factory accessory offered by Knight and Austin & Halleck, it is an economical accessory that most all in-lines can benefit from.

MUZZLELOADER TO WATCH IN 2004

Though lamentably not as heavily marketed as some other muzzleloaders, the Savage 10ML-II “smokeless muzzleloader” has already been proven as the strongest, best built muzzleloader on the market. Finally, with an improved tang safety, a better ramrod, and the addition of the spectacular Accu-Trigger models shipping very late this year, it is all coming together for the 10ML. Improved sabots have already been made for this gun, and more and more powder and load combinations have been developed to suit the individual’s preference as to extremely low recoil, or remarkable longer range performance. It embodies what muzzleloaders have always said they want: economical propellants, non-corrosive propellants, a truly sealed action, tight barrel tolerances, true certified GBQ barrels, an action that cannot stick a primer or cap, factory pillar-bedded stocks, a crisp user-adjustable trigger, and factory test-firing and accuracy testing. The latest Accu-Triggered 10ML-II has all this, and is fundamentally such a well-crafted piece that it is just hard to resist—regardless of your propellant choice.


Muzzleloading hunting and shooting continues as one of the fastest-growing hunting and shooting sports in the nation. Right now, the prospective buyer has more and better choices than ever before—many good choices. With a large number of new products scheduled for release in 2004, it is too early to tell what will be a hit, and what might only be a pitch. One thing is clear: it will be fun to watch!

Those are my choices-- I would think you might have a few of your own?

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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2003, 06:33:47 PM »
Hey Randy, good choices all 'round. I agree with all of them except for the bullet (surprise, surprise). I'd give it to the Hornady SST but that's just my choice. I've been shooting three new Bushnell 4200s this year and am extremely impressed. They stack up very well against the likes of Leupold. I love the Omega but must admit to wanting to give the Savage a try.....and I will.

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2003, 06:56:55 PM »
No, not surprised at all. The gun tends to tell you what bullet it prefers. If the 220 / 240 area grain weight Precision sabots shoot in your gun, the .40 / 50 Dead Centers offer a huge advantage. If in doubt, throw them out. The 325 gr. Buffalo SSB's have been really good shooters as well for me.

What REALLY surprised me is the array of sabots that MMP makes. No less than 1 dozen different .45 / 50 black sabots here, alone. I had no idea.

Here's the "Omega" question of the day: what would you change / improve about it?

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2003, 07:10:22 PM »
Personally, I like the Omega almost as is. Possibly a little checkering in the forestock and pistol grip on the laminate stock but that's about it.

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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2003, 07:12:24 PM »
I'd hope that one day Thompson gets around to tapering their barrels-- particularly on the .45 cal versions.

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2003, 07:16:26 PM »
HMM, a tapered barrel on a muzzleloader. I don't know if I'm ready for that yet. Next thing they'll be pouring smokeless powder down the barrel.

Maybe a fluted barrel, now that would be cool!

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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2003, 07:25:49 PM »
One of the reasons I'm anxious to try out the T/C G2 Contender .45 ML is a .45 caliber that delivers on the size / weight end, rather than just a smaller hole in the same barrel and gun.

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2003, 02:52:50 AM »
What REALLY surprised me is the array of sabots that MMP makes. No less than 1 dozen different .45 / 50 black sabots here, alone. I had no idea.

Yes Del really does make a sabot to fit the occasion!

Here's the "Omega" question of the day: what would you change / improve about it?

I'd like to see the action lock open for cleaning and plug removal.

I think that a version of the Omega will be the first TC to be smokeless. Savage proved it works and has caught the attention of the other makers.

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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2003, 03:05:21 AM »
SCOPE OF THE YEAR

I've never seen a Sightron so it can't be that one, as a used to be Leupold man, the Bushnell 4200 Elite is impressing the heck out of me. I've put them on 2 Omegas and have one other that has jumped around doing duty on 4 different Encore barrels this season.

 BULLET OF THE YEAR

The SST gets my vote. Sandi and I have 7 one shot kills this season with the 250 grain 50 cal right out to 220 yards. I get sub 1" groups with it with 150 grains of Pyro. I shot a lot of different bullets this year but this and the XTP are the only two that were accurate while fully utilizing the powder capabilities of the Omegas.
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2003, 03:16:16 AM »
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MOST INFLUENTIAL RIFLE OF THE YEAR

The Thompson Omega .50 caliber wins this one, as it has satisfied more new owners than any other single muzzleloader. Since its introduction in 2002, it has been tweaked a bit in barrel quality, breechplug design, and trigger uniformity. Due to it ease of maintenance, and externally sealed action—it is the type of hassle free gun that more buyers have voted their preference for than any other style of inline. In no way is it the “only” good gun, or even my personal favorite. However, nearly two years after its introduction, Thompson just cannot make them fast enough—and every major inline company is scrambling to offer their own alternative.

I'd have to agree. That other companies are trying to make their own version is proof of that.

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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2003, 05:50:28 AM »
Quote from: Omega
SCOPE OF THE YEAR

I've never seen a Sightron so it can't be that one, as a used to be Leupold man, the Bushnell 4200 Elite is impressing the heck out of me. I've put them on 2 Omegas and have one other that has jumped around doing duty on 4 different Encore barrels this season.

 BULLET OF THE YEAR

The SST gets my vote. Sandi and I have 7 one shot kills this season with the 250 grain 50 cal right out to 220 yards. I get sub 1" groups with it with 150 grains of Pyro. I shot a lot of different bullets this year but this and the XTP are the only two that were accurate while fully utilizing the powder capabilities of the Omegas.
Rich


If there was one, single scope that I had to use on every single hunting rifle-- it would be the Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5 x 40 x 40mm. That said, mention of this normally causes groans-- from those who feel, "but it's JUST a muzzleloader." The Sightron falls right between the $150 or so 3200 and the 4200, and I may be wrong-- but, that seems to be the area ($200, give or take) where "most" would be willing to invest in scopes, for those who want good glass. Not quite a 4200, but a jump over the 3200 to my eyes.

Rich,

Do you and Sandi always vote alike? The SST's are popular-- I wonder how many have compared the 250 gr. / 300 45/50 SST directly to the 275 gr. 45/50 QT and the 300 gr. 45/50 Dead Center?

One of the more promising jacketed bullets is the 260 gr. Winchester PT. Yet, every one ever shipped has been shipped with the wrong sabot (far too long) fo the bullet.

It is the sabot that seems to be overlooked by most.

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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2003, 06:57:51 AM »
Rich,

Do you and Sandi always vote alike?


Yep she sometimes tells me how I voted too!
 :)  :)


The SST's are popular-- I wonder how many have compared the 250 gr. / 300 45/50 SST directly to the 275 gr. 45/50 QT and the 300 gr. 45/50 Dead Center?

Not me, not yet... costs me right at $70 bucks for 50 of them!  :eek: In light of how my previous purchases of Dead Centers turned out you'll forgive me if I don't rush out and buy a hundred or so more right now.  :?

You know I've never got an answer back on those sabots I sent to Del at MMP. I wonder if there is a cover up conspiracy???  :-D
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2003, 07:45:17 AM »
Quote from: Omega
[You know I've never got an answer back on those sabots I sent to Del at MMP. I wonder if there is a cover up conspiracy???  :-D


I doubt it-- he's melted more plastic than most on the planet. Without a barrel to examine, or the ability to duplicate it-- it has to be tough.

Even Toby has recently tested a few in his Savages, and has had better results than he suspected he was going to have:

http://www.hpmuzzleloading.com/fieldtests.html

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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2003, 07:56:55 AM »
doubt it-- he's melted more plastic than most on the planet. Without a barrel to examine, or the ability to duplicate it-- it has to be tough.

Humor Randy, that was meant to be humor! Maybe we should have a humor button on the code menu bar.....

No doubt it is hard to come up with an answer but he sure could have replied to my email and said that if nothing else.
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2003, 08:03:05 AM »
Rich,

I believe he will do his best.

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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2003, 08:19:08 AM »
Thanks for the great evaluation Randy, I'm always interested in what is the best quality, good value, and what's new that actually works like it's supposed to. :wink:
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2003, 08:55:14 AM »
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Rich,

I believe he will do his best.


I'm sure he will. Del struck me as an honest man when I spoke to him.
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2003, 02:03:30 PM »
Quote from: Dutch/AL
I'm always interested in what is the best quality, good value, and what's new that actually works like it's supposed to. :wink:


It is a good time for muzzleloading-- the choices seem to just get better and better, and there are at least six different rifles along that, to me, are just functionally terrific-- and great choices.

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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2003, 02:38:32 PM »
"Here's the "Omega" question of the day: what would you change / improve about it?"
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1) Lengthen the rear-ward stock by one inch.
2) Increase the size of the trigger guard
3) Provide a tool that keeps the hammer assembly completely open upon cleaning without removing the assembly.
4) Remove "hollow" from it's synthetic stocks
5) Add a walnut stained stock
6) This one might sound stupid to some & promise me you won't laugh! Manufacture a few optional after-market 1-66' twisters for the Omega. I want an inline that shoots roundballs beyond 75 yards. I'm sure T/C's #1 online supplier... Foxridgeoutfitters.com would be glad to include this barrel in their repertoire.
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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2003, 02:41:04 PM »
Good on all counts, T 7 - - - as for the round ball barrel, I wouldn't look for that. They are available in Encoreland, though.

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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2003, 04:12:25 PM »
Get rid of the plastic (if not plastic, then WHAT?) bushings in the trigger/hammer asseblies.  Since we need to enlarge the trigger guard anyway, let's redesign the whole thing.  Put some springs in there that look like the belong in a good rifle instead of a mousetrap.  

Do away with the hammer-like thing and either use a real hammer with a real thumbrest or just go to hammerless and a tang safety.  Spread the mount holes for decent spacing.    Beef up that action to handle heavier loads.  A quarter rib might be nice.  

Maybe it would end up looking something like this:

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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2003, 06:24:12 PM »
Special mention should have been made in 2003 for the invention of the "crud ring" and the T-bolt setscrew by the Great Underclocked, as well as the "Joltmaster 9000" SmartMedia rifle, as the most innovative design of the new millennium.

Forgive me, Great Underclocked!

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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2003, 03:09:19 PM »
I emailed Knight about the new Revolution indicating it appears to be a hybrid of the Browning B78 muzzy and Ruger #1 muzzy pics I manufactured.  The email bounced.

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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2003, 03:12:58 PM »
Alright,

Creative Conical Connoisseur it is, then. :eek: