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Offline markc

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Rossi Circuit Judge?
« on: September 01, 2010, 04:32:15 AM »
Anyone own, handle, shoot, borrow or otherwise have info on these?  I like the idea, and wonder if with the rifled barrel, firing .410 shot shells would be a problem?   It would be nice to have the choice to switch from a shotshell for squirrells to .45 Colt if feral hogs show up at close range.   Any thoughts?


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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2010, 05:33:38 PM »
I was kinda geeked when I first saw it too.  Only thing kinda killing it for me is the fact you have to remove the choke for the shotgun and screw in a cylinder bore choke in between, or deal with poor pattern on the shotgun.  I think it'd be a fun bunny gun or a fun deer gun if accuracy is acceptable.  Unfortunately, I think it'd be better to just use a shotgun and carry a pistol or some combination of discreet guns.  I think you'd have to keep shots on rabbits at 30ft or less for a decent pattern with the open bore.  8(
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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2010, 05:55:15 PM »
Marc, this came up before when it was posted in a previous thread. The flash in the gap from cylinder to barrel could and would make a nasty burn on a shooters arm while holding the forearm. just fyi
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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2010, 09:27:54 PM »
It's got a deflector to prevent that, but you have to be right handed in order for it to work effectively.
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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2010, 03:24:45 PM »
Thanks for the replies.  Tacklebury, I think I have come to the same conclusion about the shotgun, and handgun.  Oh well, it was a neat idea, and maybe I will stumble upon one really cheap some day. 
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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2010, 03:49:43 PM »
Yah, it's still bumpin around in my head.  I think it'd be an awesome rabbit gun, but cannot justify 5-600 bucks for it.  lol ;)
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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 05:42:31 AM »
I handled one at at gun show this weekend.  Seems kind of cool.  The flash guard is on both the left and right of the bottom of the cylinder.  Should work for lefties and righties.  It look sort of "stuck together though.  It's a piece of sheet metal bent into place.  Couldn't cycle the action at all due to the lock on the gun which was a gun show rule.  Seemed like a decent enough piece though.  I wish they would make it just for the pistol round and get rid of the shot shell length cylinder.  Looks silly...  might work okay for bunnies, squirrels and such though.  I've heard the Judge pistols are pretty accurate with the .45's, if the rifle/shotgun is too it might make a decent short range deer/hog gun.

I won't go out of my way to buy one, but if I found a really good deal on one I might pick it up.



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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2010, 07:55:08 PM »
Quote from: no guns here on September 07, 2010, 05:42:31 AM
I handled one at at gun show this weekend.  Seems kind of cool.  The flash guard is on both the left and right of the bottom of the cylinder.  Should work for lefties and righties.  It look sort of "stuck together though.  It's a piece of sheet metal bent into place.  Couldn't cycle the action at all due to the lock on the gun which was a gun show rule.  Seemed like a decent enough piece though.  I wish they would make it just for the pistol round and get rid of the shot shell length cylinder.  Looks silly...  might work okay for bunnies, squirrels and such though.  I've heard the Judge pistols are pretty accurate with the .45's, if the rifle/shotgun is too it might make a decent short range deer/hog gun.

I won't go out of my way to buy one, but if I found a really good deal on one I might pick it up.



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 Ive heard just the opposite. Ive hear that the pistols are terribly inaccurate with 45lc and have a horrible pattern with shot shells. Ive heard of people using a 9.3x74R shell necked up to make what I refer to as a "45 very long colt" but Ive also been reminded (and agree 100%) that the small amount of powder in a large case would be a problem. I am however curious what a full case full of Trailboss would do. IMR/Hodegdon claims that you can pretty much fill any case and the pressures will stay low and safe.
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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2010, 09:22:03 AM »
Let me clarify... I heard and read that they are accurate within a short range as intended.  The tests I read I believe were from arms length to like 10 yards or so.  It was intended to be an up close and personal gun.  I wouldn't have a problem carrying one with a mix of cartridges while hiking.  First one or two would be .410 then .45.  Snake and then something else if needed...


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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2011, 09:37:06 AM »
HAS ANYONE TARGETED THE CIRCUIT JUDGE WITH .45LC @ 50 OR 100YDS THAT CAN GIVE SENSABLE INFO. ABOUT THE ACCURACY OF THIS GUN. ALSO NEED INFO. ABOUT WHAT LOAD PRESSURES IT WILL HANDLE FOR .45LC.  WE NEED ACTUAL FACT, NOT GUESS WORK, FROM A SHOOTER
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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2011, 12:30:02 PM »
I have shot the circuit judge , and am very happy with the results . breneke slugs making about 1.5-2" groups at 100 yds. Also tried some of the lever ammo but the .410 slug was by far more accurate . Great starter gun for some a state that allows .410 for deer . I have always wanted a rifled .410 for slug use and that is the only reason that I bought the gun .
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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2011, 05:14:59 AM »
    FYI regarding Circuit Judge , please bear w/me not much on keyboard work, mostly reading! To anyone considering Curcuit Judges of any configeration, they are IMHO a "niche" gun. I bought the 1'st one I saw, as I like >45colts & 410's. I shot various standard pressure handloads w/250, 260 ,& 300 gr. lead & jacketed bullets, Unique,Bluedot,HS-7&2400 powders. Still playing with it, but I would not hessitate to carry this gun on the deer,bear,or hog hunt! Any firearm that can put 3 .45 slugs into the "cloverleaf" group @60 yrd.s ,(my test range) should be good enough for most of these 3 animals. The .410 is a good 20 yrd small game gun, OR an excellant home defense gun! My wife handled it & was impressed, my college aged son & gal pal had a blast w/ it just last wknd on clays.I am grabbing the 1st .22/.22mag 1 I see!
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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2011, 04:55:05 AM »
Yes, the Circuit Judge does seem to be a lot more accurate than the handgun according to both "martrage's" report and Jeff Quinn's. I can easily believe that as a small game gun it can do about as well as any other .410, that straight rifled choke tube makes all the difference.
 I have a Super Commanche handgun with the straight rifled choke tube and it is deadly on grouse and bunnies at 25 yards. Even with the smoothbore .45 Colt tube in place a load of #6 shot is still deadly out to about 20 yards and the pattern,  though larger, is actually more uniform and consistent.  I've never even fired a .45 Colt round from it as I didn't expect it to be accurate and  I have revolvers for that.
Check out this Rossi website, they've gone nuts with the Judge concept, even a lever action revolver!
http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=190&category=15&toggle=&breadcrumbseries=
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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2011, 03:22:11 PM »
 
    Rossi Cuircit Judge update: Just took my 1st vermin w/ .410, a p--p all over the place barn pidgeon @30+ yards on the wing w/ my factory equiv. handloads,done on a MEC loader. 15 min's later a groundhog @20yrd.s ! I think this gun is a keeper! Mounted a Browning Reflex sight on the gun after the 2x shotgun scope initial shoot-in (3 .45's touching). Needed scope for another project. As always-- Your mileage may vary! This is a neat firearm!
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Re: Rossi Circuit Judge?
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2011, 02:59:02 AM »
I think the gun is neat as can be.  I wouldn't mind having one to tinker with.  I think it would be a great camp or survival gun concept.
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