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Offline Gullie

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H&r 22-250 keyhole
« on: February 06, 2011, 12:20:58 PM »
Got new handi grip 22-250 ,every shot out of it hit target sideways @ 25 yards. factory load win supreme 55s,  dealer sent it back to factory any body had this problem?

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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2011, 12:28:05 PM »
Quote from: Gullie on February 06, 2011, 12:20:58 PM
Got new handi grip 22-250 ,every shot out of it hit target sideways @ 25 yards. factory load win supreme 55s,  dealer sent it back to factory any body had this problem?

WELCOME!!

 That's not good!!!  Are you sure the caliber is correct? I mean did the barrel say 22-250? What did the bore look like? I mean was it 22 caliber? Did the empty casings look normal?

No its not a regular occurrence. From time to time people see a tumbling bullet, more common is just a bit of a "yaw" as if too long/heavy a bullet and improper stabilisation.  But full tumbling for every shot is not common.

I am interested to hear what they tell you.. Likely nothing and will just replace the barrel...

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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2011, 12:40:37 PM »
Yes it is 22/250. Every thing looked good about it. Very worried about my purchase. This is my first handi. Not starting out very well
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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2011, 01:06:43 PM »
Quote from: Gullie on February 06, 2011, 12:40:37 PM
Yes it is 22/250. Every thing looked good about it. Very worried about my purchase. This is my first handi. Not starting out very well

I agree, not a very good first impression.... Sorry for that!

Dont worry, Remington will make it right!!

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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 01:47:49 PM »
What does it do at 50 or 100yds? May not be the guns fault at all. Bullet weight for twist rate may not be right. Speed could be a factor. If shooting hot reloads, 25yds may be a bit to close for bullet stabilization. Just a thought.
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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2011, 01:54:35 PM »
Brand new box of shells 55gr Winchester supremes
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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2011, 01:55:23 PM »
The 1:14 twist is best suited for lighter bullets, say 45 - 50 grain but I have not had problems with heavier bullets. Others have. The high muzzle velocity helps. Still, I could not imagine they would keyhole at 25 yards regardless. Longer distances if you had a stabilization issue due to rate of twist, for sure.
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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 02:09:30 PM »
The holes were almost perfect outlines of the bullet. And all pointing the same direction.
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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2011, 02:22:51 PM »
You have some problem and it is not the twist rate.  A 22-250 with a 1 in 14 shold do just fine with the 55gr bullets, especially at 25 yards.  Larry
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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 02:32:33 PM »
Does any one have a idea what will happen at the factory. Surely this gun will be right when I get it back , I hope.
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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2011, 02:34:08 PM »
Seems to me that if the bullet is not stabilized right out of the barrel, it is never going to be.....
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2011, 02:35:09 PM »
If you have a 22-250 with say a 24 or 25 caliber bore, I'll take it!
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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2011, 03:02:22 PM »
Welcome aboard Gullie! Yes, the factory will take care of it, they do that very well when something like this happens, if you sent it in yourself, you could track the repair process online at http://www.hr1871.com/support/repairs.asp , but I don't know if the dealer will share that info with you so you can do so. H&R repair offers excellent service, repairs are done very timely as long as they have parts in stock.  You're not the first to have problems with 55gr bullets in their 22-250 H&R tho, someone else not long ago had the same problem. Mine shoots 50gr Vmax handloads real good tho, FWIW.

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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2011, 03:18:37 AM »
would have been interesting to have slugged that barrel before it was returned.

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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2011, 05:01:45 AM »
Another 'custom chambering' from H&R? ;)
If the are keyholing at 25 they aint ever going to straighten out.
The good thing is that when you get it back it will have had more attention given it that a std. factory rifle. You should also mention the trigger is too heavy and get the free trigger job. You know its was.......
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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2011, 05:25:35 AM »
Talk about custom bore, 95 Roadking had a new 204 Ruger barrel that keyholed all rounds, after close examination he found that it only had rifling in half the bore!!! It got a new barrel! I've got a 270 Win fluted Ultra bull barrel that came in a 444 Marlin combo, the 270 barrel slugs at .2795", very inaccurate with .277" bullets, but big enough to be able to shoot .284" bullets in neck turned brass accurately and fast as a 270 Ackley!  So they do make lemons sometimes.  :-\

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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2011, 10:14:22 AM »
Yeah, everybody does; but youve got 'The Lemonade Stand'........ ;)
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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2011, 11:09:27 AM »
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Re: H&r 22-250 keyhole
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2011, 02:16:34 PM »
Quote from: Gullie on February 06, 2011, 02:09:30 PM
The holes were almost perfect outlines of the bullet. And all pointing the same direction.

Sounds like an Enfield I had.  Bore was a little oversized.  Slugged out to .315 instead of the nominal .311.  Was never very accurate unless I sized .318 (8mm) bullets down to .315 to load in it. 

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