Wolf wars

[Double D]

The Topic is wolf management in  Montana.  The topic is not Wildlife management politics in  Alaska.

Discussion on Alaska wolf problems moved to the  Alaska forum.

[thxmrgarand]

No worries.  I will never again write anything in Graybeard Outdoors.  I hope the remainder of your life goes well.

[Double D]

No worries.  I will never again write anything in Graybeard Outdoors.  I hope the remainder of your life goes well.

So sorry you feel that way.  You were asked to stay on topic and you didn't. You choose to ignore the Moderators requests.  I really should have just deleted your comments, but instead as a courtesy to you I  moved them to the Alaska forum where they are relevant.

[Pot-Bellied Stallion]

Double D,  Perhaps this entire topic should be moved to Western Big Game Hunting since those states with wolf problems are throughout the west, not just confined to Montana.  Idaho, Wyoming, Washington, and Oregon have been mentioned as well as Alaska.  I think thxmrgarand's comments were entirely relevant to the subject at hand.  Any experience that anyone has had with the wolf overpopulation or the threat of wolf packs should be aired in this topic.  I know there have been plenty of wolf horror stories in Idaho.

[Double D]

PBS,

I think you are partially correct as far as the topic being  relevant for the the Western Big Forum.   The topic is not related to the Alaska issue at all.

The topic is   wolf management in Montana and Montana's efforts to comply with the Federal Governments introduction of an exotics species of wolves in Montana.

Montana's attempts to comply with the standard have been stymied by the Federal court because another state does not wish to comply.  Montana has no control over Wyoming and how they choose to comply.

Alaska is not part of this debate.  Alaska is not part of this ongoing lawsuit and Montana's management program is not on hold because of Alaska's wolf  program.  Alaska is not part of this topic

What is going on in Wyoming, Idaho, Oregon, Washing and probably soon Utah and Colorado has a bearing on  Montana being allowed to institute a wolf management program.  What is going on in Alaska has no bearing.

The problems with wolves is an entire different discussion all together and just as contentious as this one.

Thxmrgarand disscussion points did not have anything to do with  Montana wolf management program.  He was asked by the Moderator politely and tactfully to bring it back to  Montana, to connect to Montana. Thxmrgarand choose to refuse to do that.

Because thxmrgarand points were good and valid, and important but not relevant to Montana discussion, instead of being deleted they were moved to the Alaska board where they were relevant.

Thxmrgarands response to my actions certainly doesn't compel me to reconsider his position.


 

 



 

[Pot-Bellied Stallion]

Thanks for the explanation, Double D.  Since I'm in Idaho, I'll hold my comments until such time when/if the topic is moved to Western Big game.

[Double D]

PBS it would be a good discussion for the Western big game forum, open up a new topic.

Because the court has decided that Montana's management program can not be instituted until all the involved states are in compliance, then problems with Idaho's program do indeed affect Montana.  The issues in Alaska don't--right now.

Wyoming intransigence on the issue right now is problem.  JiminTN wants Wyoming to just give in.  He seems to think we will get our program approved, if  Wyoming does give in..  We might, he could be right, but experience is when we meet each criteria a new one is put place. What happens if Wyoming gets in line and complies with the the Judges wishes?

What happens if wolves suddenly show up in Colorado or Utah?  Does Montana have to wait for those states to put there program together?   

I can kind of see where the court is coming from in dealing with Wyoming attitude about shoot on sight.  The wolf is a protected species and shoot on site does nothing to protect it. But what does that have to do with the states who are compliant.   


                                                                 

[Cottonwood]

The best thing to come down from Helena in a long time:

Schweitzer says Montana will defy feds, kill wolves that prey on elk, livestock
http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_7d25caf6-3a20-11e0-a8ef-001cc4c002e0.html