Snake shot rounds in a semi auto

[Oldshooter]

Has anyone tried the "snake shot"/ "rat shot" rounds in their Glocks.

Saw some at Cabela's this weekend in 45 acp and was wondering if they would "cycle" a semiauto. The ones I saw looked like they were built to load from a magazine but I was wondering if they would "cycle" a second round through?  I have used this type of round in a revolver before with success, just not sure about a semi auto.

Anyone have any experience with these rounds?

[ECVMatt]

My experience is that they don't cycle. I have used them loaded singly for fun, but could not get them to cycle the slide. I have some friends that say they do work though; you might buy a box and see what happens for you.

Good Luck,


Matt

[Tonk]

I don't believe I will touch this one with 10 foot pole! If you want a snake shot pistol, then get the JUDGE as it was made for that purpose in mind. I have tested that pistol at 15 feet using 3 inch .410 shotgun in the #6 shot and it is devastating to say the least. No rattlesnake is going strike again after receiving 2 shots from this loaded JUDGE in .410 shotgun shells. Now one shot would be plenty but I have a thing about poisonous snakes, they deserve 2 shots always. 

[Oldshooter]

I don't believe I will touch this one with 10 foot pole!

Well i guess thats close to not touching it! 

Dont wanna spend 600.00 on a snake gun #1

Was just wondering about the slide thing. They looked impressive, just wanted to see if anyone had first hand experience with em in a Glock. I carry a 45 and thought it would be a nice "snake potion" if they worked. I used them in a model 29 s&w and they were effective.

I'll try em and let you guys know!

[mcwoodduck]

Depending on your .45 if they cycle.
If you have a 1911 that is set up for mouse burp loads... You may be able to get them to cycle.  But then you will need to change springs to get it to go bang for something else.
If snakes are a problem keep a .22 rifle around.  You point one at a rattle snake, one handed and get it close to them, and they will line up on the end of the barrel.  When they stop moveing pull the trigger.  the bullet will hit them about 3" low in the neck.
What happens is the snake gets all lined up to strike.
All I have found snake shot good for is shooting rats at close ranges where you are worried about a single projo bouncing out of the yard or around in the garage or barn.

[Mikey]

Oldshooter:  most snakeshot loads will not cycle the action of a semi-auto because the load of shot is not usually heavy enough or shot fast enough to cycle the action.  If your 45 acp fires a 230 gn slug at 850-875'/sec, and you are shooting 100 gns of snakeshot at the same velocity, it won't cycle the pistol unless as mcwoodduck sez your pistol is set up to shoot mouse burp loads. 

There are a fair number of posts on the 1911/45 site regarding snakeshot loads, or at least there have been.  A number of fellas have tried a number of load combos but I wonder if nakeshot is not best fired from a revolver for reliability, as custom loads for a 1911 would have to be brewed up to cycle the action.  It takes a lot of shot to get up to 45 acp bullet weight to get a 1911 action to cycle but I think it can be accomplished.

I believe one member has experimented with 40 S&W brass to make jacketed slugs for a 44 magnum, I think, but that is a indication of what can be accomplished with the kind of ingenuity we find here amongst our members. A .410 shot cup may possibly work if it is of the proper diameter to hold shot in a 45 acp but I'm not sure.  I believe the shot would need to be contained to give any accuracy from a acp barrel and if we could figger it out we might be able to come up with semi-auto snakeshot.....maybe.  I should work on this.....

[Oldshooter]

I was just thinking, if they wont jam the gun then a fella could at least cycle it by hand and get a fresh round chambered. Which would work fine as long as it wasnt a multiple snake banzai charge! 

[Keith L]

I was just thinking, if they wont jam the gun then a fella could at least cycle it by hand and get a fresh round chambered. Which would work fine as long as it wasnt a multiple snake banzai charge! 

I hate it when the snakes do that!

[rio grande]

I once shot some (maybe 10) of the old G.I. .45acp shot loads from a G.I. 1911.
They cycled and worked perfectly, much to my surprise.

[Mikey]

rio grande:  did you ever take any of those old GI loads apart to see how they were put together??

[mcwoodduck]

You didn't like my Mouse Burp comment?
Could have used a term for excaping gas out the other end of the mouse.  That is how I have always heard them called but cleaned it up as this is a family site.

[GRIMJIM]

I would think the rifling would just disperse the pellets. Kind of like shooting bird shot out of a rifled barrel. Maybe I'm mistaken?

[Mikey]

Hey mcduck - the mouse burp comment was funny and I liked it.  I just warn't smart'n'uf to use it myself.  An thankya fer bein' family oriented.

[drdougrx]

 

You guys...mouse burp...snake shot.....only snakes I ever run into wear business suits and hand out little white cards with their names on'm.....

[Tonk]

Perhaps this might shed some light on the Glock question of shot being used in a Glock for snakes! I spoke to a man on Monday morning and he told me that those Glocks can shoot the "snake shot" cartridges but they may also fail to cycle sometimes........A trial and error thing I suppose. I do have a friend that shoots those CCI shells in his 1911 model Springfield.

[mcwoodduck]

Perhaps this might shed some light on the Glock question of shot being used in a Glock for snakes! I spoke to a man on Monday morning and he told me that those Glocks can shoot the "snake shot" cartridges but they may also fail to cycle sometimes........A trial and error thing I suppose. I do have a friend that shoots those CCI shells in his 1911 model Springfield.

Fire yes.
Manual reload - yes.
Auto reload - not with Factory autos.  Not even the 22's will cycle with them.

[Spector]

I tried snake loads in my Glock 21 years ago.  Aluminum cases if I remember right.  They did not eject reliably.........Mike 

[Oldshooter]

Ah ha first hand knowledge! Well if a fella knows that, he can cycle manually if a second shot is required.

In the heat of a "surprise sighting" a 45 slug may not hit the offending snake squarely where a  "snake shot" may. That is the important thing to me!  even if I have to hand cycle.

[jcrane]

CCI ratshot cycles my Glock 36.  No problems at all.

jcrane