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Offline crashresidue

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« on: November 29, 2004, 06:16:26 PM »
Seems that the Moderator waited until this post had apparently wound down before posting - I have no problem with either his timing or his opinion.

Being Southern "born and bred", I find that the theme of this entire thread to be very enlightening.  Ya see, I've NEVER understood why the South continued to fight this War.  Made NO sense to me.  Never has before - and I'm not sure I'll ever understand it - but I've got a lot of thinking to do in a direction I'd never have thought of.

I've never saluted a Confederate flag - no matter which one was displayed.  I didn't fight and bleed for it.  

Until this thread, I couldn't grasp how anyone could still get upset over something that was 130 years in the past.

But, I have a "better' understanding about an incident that I caused back 10 years ago.  

I had a t-crap printed up with that portrait of the Confederated cannon crew that had taken a direct hit - where the gun is leaning, the casson is destroyed, horses dead, gunners either on the ground or slumped over the barrel.  Above that I had printed "We Lost" and below the picture - "Get OVER it".

I still pretty much feel that way - but, now, I at least have an idea of what a "normal" Southerner feels!  I apologise for that shirt - from the bottom of my heart.  Just because I don't understand, I don't have the right to mock!!

Thanks people - Ya made this redneck THINK!

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2004, 09:18:46 AM »
Crashresidue:
In a similar manner I too have reflected upon this great struggle for Southern independence and often times I also have pondered on what actually prompted our ancestors [both sides] to commit so valiantly and unselfishly to the struggle.
I think your sentiments pretty much define the current struggle to preserve our civil war history and present this history accurately with minimal bias. Any less of an effort would indeed mock those on both sides that deserve their stories to be accurately related and preserved.
Thanks for the post.  I hope these and similar conversations also prompt others to re-think their positions and beliefs.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2004, 05:00:50 PM »
Crashresidue,
First, the reason I waited to get a post into that thread was because, I was in the sand box of Fort Erwin playing for the last time, I hope.Second is because as you can see my views are not the most liked by many folks in here  and realy hated by those above the line or that seem to lean liberal and for that I am sorry, I dont try to offend, just speak my feelin's and if some find that wrong , well sorry y'all, dont listen, that is what makes this a great nation( or two nations to some).
I also would like to take this time to again stress that I respect other points of view, but I do reserve the right to set historicaly incorrect statements right and protect the truth of history weather it is pro Union or pro Confederate.What many folks seem to remember is that both sides in that hell of a war were Americans and the men that fought it should not be  belittled in any fashion.It is true, I have a Confederate slant in my thought and I admitt it, but in that war I lost better than 150  members of my family, all Confederate, this is why I hold their memories high, why I brag about my Southern blood and why to this day , still salute the Confederate flag, for it is the flag of my people and in my eyes a people still fighting for their nation and heritage.So in closing, some here have said I am a radical, am I , I guess I am . If being a patriot is radical, count me in.Some have said that I would fight the war to this day, would I,I just might under the right reasons, what one must always remember is that the people have the right to rebel against an oppressive government, do we have one right now, I dont think so, I think that if Kerry would have one I think it would have went that way fast, so I hope that puts that lame dog to rest once and for all.Anyhow, good to see ya in here and I hope to see ya around , ask question, read, post and most of all think. Sometimes the truth is not popular or even pretty, but the truth is the truth and history is history. Keep that in mine , think about what you see and hear and alway look to the Constitution when it come to questions of where the real power in our nation is.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2004, 05:32:02 PM »
Cheers El Confederado,

I was up at Ft. Irwin the last two week of November with a red, white and blue Bell 212, parked at Bicycle Lake.  We were trying to build a powerline from Nasa Peak to Deford Peak ( I think that was it's name - but I might be wrong.)  Anyway, the weather got us and when I was replaced, the pilot that took over is STILL sitting there.

After working or living in the tropics since '96, I've discovered that I DON"T like the cold!

Anyway, back to the topic - I agree, the war is still being faught - by both sides and as long as it doesn't get rabid - I'll usually throw in my two cents worth.

Gentle winds,
Russ
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