Author Topic: PF 9 problem (Read 4041 times)

jeff1hd · « **on:** December 26, 2010, 02:08:29 AM »

First of all i hope everyone had a Merry Christmas. Now to the problem dad got a new PF 9 for himself the other day and we finaly got to try it out yesterday. He shot it the first four rounds and then i shot next 3 all went great really liking thei new gun but then on every shot after that it would eject the mag upon firing. We changed grip style even shot it left handed but almost every time it would kick out the mag. anyone else had this problem or know what might be causing it he really likes it and wants to keep it. It is a very suprisingly accurate easy to carry pistol and i would like to get it fixed for him any help would be appreciated

44 Man · « **Reply #1 on:** December 28, 2010, 03:50:37 AM »

I'm glad you are enjoying you new gun, but sorry you are having trouble with it. I have not heard nor seen that particular problem. Does the mag release feel weak when you push it? Mine is very strong. You might look inside the grip frame and check the spring. It's a U shaped one and just snaps into position. Just make sure it is where it should be. Good luck with it. 44 Man

Spirithawk · « **Reply #2 on:** December 28, 2010, 04:32:03 PM »

I'd contact Kel Tec and ask them. They have an exceptionaly good service department and should you have to send your PF-9 in to get fixed you'll likely get it back in better than new condition. Also, you might try looking through the forums on KTOG (Kel Tec Owners Group) as the issue just might be covered there.

jeff1hd · « **Reply #3 on:** December 29, 2010, 02:57:00 AM »

Thanks guys for the info the ejector does fill firm enough and spring looked good so i guess i will call Kel-Tec and see what they say it really is a good pistol and i like it very much

Spirithawk · « **Reply #4 on:** December 29, 2010, 06:27:48 AM »

You might try another magazine too if you can get your hands on one.

44 Man · « **Reply #5 on:** December 29, 2010, 07:30:06 AM »

I have a silly question. Is it possible that your thumb is bumping the mag release during recoil? I have heard of that happening with other semi-autos. 44 Man

jeff1hd · « **Reply #6 on:** December 29, 2010, 08:46:39 AM »

that is what i thought at first about my thumb hitting release but tried many different hand positions and even switch to left hand and had three other people shoot it also still same thing

Spirithawk · « **Reply #7 on:** December 29, 2010, 10:23:27 AM »

One more thought. Is the magazine locking in place good? Have you tried getting it to come out simply by pulling on it? Just wondering if it's not locking in place correctly.

jeff1hd · « **Reply #8 on:** December 30, 2010, 01:59:09 AM »

It seems to be locking in place i tried pulling it before firing and then after replacing it when kicked out by each round

44 Man · « **Reply #9 on:** January 05, 2011, 03:09:30 AM »

I would say it definately needs a trip back to Kel-Tec. 44 Man

Savage · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2011, 11:27:50 AM »

The mag catch is plastic, which by it's self is not that bad. Perhaps a little redesign could solve the problem. Depress the mag release button every time you insert the magazine to lessen wear on the part. Someone may have slammed the magazine into the gun too many times without depressing the release button. You can send the gun back to KT and they will make it good, or they will send you the part if you would like to replace it yourself.
Savage

44 Man · « **Reply #11 on:** January 07, 2011, 03:28:31 AM »

You might call Kel-tec and ask for a new mag catch. The new ones are metal. 44 Man

Savage · « **Reply #12 on:** January 07, 2011, 04:32:07 AM »

Quote from: 44 Man on January 07, 2011, 03:28:31 AM

You might call Kel-tec and ask for a new mag catch. The new ones are metal. 44 Man

Ah, good! They do listen to customer feedback-----------!

Savage

Spirithawk · « **Reply #13 on:** January 07, 2011, 05:14:54 PM »

Are you sure you have the plastic release? I thought mine did at first. The metal one looks plastic just looking at it. One way to tell is the contact surface of the plastic catch was shaped differently than the metal catch. It had a number of little "nubs" as opposed to the concentric rings shape of the metal catch. All the newer PF-9's have the metal catch. I think Kel Tec upgraded a few other things too such as the length of the chamber channel. they made it a bit longer for better feeding of cartridges. Anyhow, if you send your PF-9 in you'll get any and all upgrades free of charge so it might well be worth doing.

Savage · « **Reply #14 on:** January 08, 2011, 02:08:28 PM »

Glad to hear the new PF9 has a steel mag catch. I was unaware the problem had been corrected. I bought my PF9 in 2006, so it was one of the first ones in my area. I have had no problems with mine, but I don't practice speed reloads with it either. Good pistol for the money, KT will make it right for you.
Savage

Toney · « **Reply #15 on:** January 09, 2011, 04:16:12 AM »

Mine did the same thing. called KT and got another catch and it dropped mags to.

I took a triangle file and widened the lip about 25%. It's not much metal to remove only took 30m or so. Have'nt dropped a mag sence.

jeff1hd · « **Reply #16 on:** January 10, 2011, 12:51:35 AM »

Update did call KT and before even getting the first sentence out the very helpfull guy said we have had this complant before is it ok if we just send you the parts or do you want to send it in. Parts should be here today i'll let yall know thanks again for all your ideas and help

Savage · « **Reply #17 on:** January 10, 2011, 01:31:27 AM »

KT is not afraid to develop new products and rush them to market. It's a good thing customer service is so good. The customer does the final testing and design changes are revealed by failures in the field. That's ok for end users with some gun savvy, but could be a dangerous thing for others. It's always up to the end user to insure the end product is safe and reliable before carrying it as a self defense tool, regardless of who manufactured it. I have owned KT pistols since they first came on the market, and think highly of them. Some had problems, but once worked out, they are all reliable. I carry one daily, sometimes as backup to something larger. For the money, they are hard to beat.
Savage

ratdog · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2011, 07:03:54 AM »

the rat dog. i have a p11 and pf9 have not shot pf9 yet may be saterday p11 very reliable only one problem the rear sight was just about to fall off so now it is glued on with jb weld i see they put a screw in the pf9 you cant beat them for the money. you mite try a different mag. good luck also mine dousnt like pmc ammo.

ratdog · « **Reply #19 on:** February 14, 2011, 11:10:09 AM »

hi i finally got my pf9 out and shot it shoots good no problems like the trigger better than my p11 i bought it for my wife she can handle it all right but she cant hit much and she does not like the bark she will get use to it but if she does not ill get her a 380 and ill carry it i really like the 9mm i have not had a stove pipe yet these are good guns. i really

Quote from: ratdog on February 02, 2011, 07:03:54 AM

the rat dog. i have a p11 and pf9 have not shot pf9 yet may be saterday p11 very reliable only one problem the rear sight was just about to fall off so now it is glued on with jb weld i see they put a screw in the pf9 you cant beat them for the money. you mite try a different mag. good luck also mine dousnt like pmc ammo.

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Spirithawk · « **Reply #20 on:** February 15, 2011, 01:17:01 PM »

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ratdog · « **Reply #21 on:** March 01, 2011, 09:52:18 PM »

well today i took my PF9 to the range again today this time mag kept falling out .the mag catch looks small compared to my p11 i don't under stand why they would put a smaller catch in pf9. tomorrow ill call and see what they can do may send it back. may be that you need to push mag release when putting in mag. don't see any damage. no big deal i know they will fix it. its a good little shooter.let you know what i find out.

ratdog · « **Reply #22 on:** March 02, 2011, 08:36:17 AM »

called keltec they are sending out up graded replacement part with instructions. you all have a great day.

ratdog · « **Reply #23 on:** March 06, 2011, 02:32:39 AM »

well i got my parts for my pf9 new mag release re placed it in 5 min easy. keltec shipped it to me fast great service.now if it solves my problem i will try it next week be happy every thing usually works out.have a great life.

ratdog · « **Reply #24 on:** March 09, 2011, 12:48:19 AM »

STILL HAVING MAG RELEASE PROBLEM AFTER PUTTING NEW MAG RELEASE IN LOOKS LIKE IT GOING BACK TO KELTEC. SHOT MY P11 100 ROUNDS TO DAY NO PROBLEMS.I WOULD TRADE PF9 FOR A P11 EASY.

ratdog · « **Reply #25 on:** March 11, 2011, 01:08:36 AM »

well i got rid of my pf 9 to day i wouldn't be able to trust it for conceal cary this was my wifes gun im going to get her a bersa 380 today a little less recoil. better reviews. have a great week end

ratdog · « **Reply #26 on:** March 16, 2011, 09:15:31 AM »

well after getting rid of my pf9 i looked at bersa and keltec can't bring my self to buy a 380 i don't think they have enough knock down power are solders are using 9mm and they are complaining.im putting this on the back burner for now. have a great week end.

Spirithawk · « **Reply #27 on:** March 21, 2011, 12:29:47 PM »

Personaly I'd have sent the PF-9 back to Kel Tec. I'll garauntee you that if you had you'd have got it back better than new and performing flawlessly and you'd have a weapon you could rely on. Anything you now buy new you'll most likely have issues with at least untill it's broken in. When a firearm is returned to Kel tec they usually go through the whole gun, even as far as a "Fluff & Buff", no matter what the problem was that caused it to be sent in. I've yet to hear of anyone getting one back from Kel Tec that wasn't very impressed with it no matter the model.

ratdog · « **Reply #28 on:** March 22, 2011, 12:12:53 AM »

i like my p11 only problem that i had with it the rear sight kept working loose fixed that problem with j.b. weld.i looked at a lot of forums reading what the fix was for the pf9 there are a lot of others that are having the same problem you could not pull the mag out by hand only when you pushed the release talked to keltec they sent me a new release fast. they offered to fix my p11 i told them i fixed it. i think the pf9 has an engineering flaw any way i don't need another 9mm now any way i have been shooting my sr9 a lot i have enjoyed your feed back on other topics like arrow heads and looking in cliff houses i use to spend quite a lot of time in the red rock country looking at indian pictagraphs on stone walls. i have a few arrow heads and scrapers i have found here in utah many year ago.i have worked with quite a number of native americans in the steel trades they are good people.thanks for your reply have a great week.