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Offline Mike103

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Full Size 1911
« on: March 30, 2011, 01:01:05 PM »
Looking for a bone stock full size 1911.

Gun might be used in the future for Wild Bunch Cowboy Action shooting.

What are the choices under 1K?

How about the new Remington?

Thanks, Mike.

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Re: Full Size 1911
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2011, 03:33:12 PM »
Hey Mike:  a new Remington would be good, and I think even Colt might have a repo 1911 and I know they have a bone stock, full size 191A1 for less than the $1k.  There have to be others, too.  I'm going totake a look in the Cowboy Action Shooting forums and see what they may have to say.  HTH.

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Re: Full Size 1911
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 01:58:51 AM »
Both Springfield and Para are offering Mil Spec 1911s for a lot less than 1k. Probably a lot more options than those that I'm not aware of in addition to the Colt Mikey mentioned.
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Re: Full Size 1911
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 07:10:10 AM »
Hi Mike.....maybe look at AUTO-ORD?????
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Re: Full Size 1911
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 08:26:23 AM »
Bone stock, under $1000, I'd go with a Colt 1991. Reliable and fairly accurate right outta the box and a great starting point for a project gun if your tastes change as time goes on.
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Re: Full Size 1911
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2011, 09:51:51 PM »
Mike103-there are lots of brand name "GI model"-entry level 1911s out there now. Check out Gun Broker.com or Guns America.com for some below retail deals.  I found a S&W 642 w/ Crimson Trace Laser grips on Guns America selling for $150 under what a plain 642 was elling for in Guns America.  A realalistic price should be in the +/- $600, range for what you seek. Good luck.

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Re: Full Size 1911
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2011, 03:16:23 AM »
Mike103:  you may also wish to visit GunTestsMagazine.com to see what they have to say about the 1911/1911A1 models used in the CASS - the magazine has compared and listed a whole bunch of 1911s with many far enough below your asking price to allow you to holster the pistol and two additional mags in a really nice era specific full leather rig, put together a reloading set-up to help you feed that hungry beast and, come up with a nice outfit for the Mrs. to wear at your first shoot.

BTW buddy, local CASS groups often have warmer weather matches up around the Saratoga, Glens Falls, Lake George area and if you decide to travel upstate for any of these matches you have to let me know so we can hook up as I am not too far from where the matches are held.  There is a gunshop just shy of Saratoga that specializes in CASS firearms and offers some gorgeous 1873 repros and levers and the like and every time I pass by I have to stop and fondle the single actions and wonder which one I would want.  HTH.

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Re: Full Size 1911
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2011, 04:11:58 AM »
That sounds like a good get together---hope it happens.
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Re: Full Size 1911
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2011, 12:48:18 PM »
Thanks guys,

Looks like the Springfield GI is the way to go.


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Re: Full Size 1911
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2011, 04:42:31 PM »
The Springfield GI is a great looking gun but with the small port and rough feedramp mine dings up brass pretty good and only feeds hardball.  Not to mention that it throws brass every which-a-way, including into my forehead.  I guess that's the way it was back in the "good ol' days".  Have fun and wear a tough hat.

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Re: Full Size 1911
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2011, 02:21:04 AM »
RicMic:  ramps can be polished and barrels can be throated to improve feeding.  The small ejection port on the 1911s was opened and lowered a bit on the A1s I believe but brass dinged at the mouth can be dealt with I believe with a slightly lighter weight recoil spring.  The brass gets dinged because the slide may not go all the way to the rear to fully force the spent case against the ejector and have it ejected properly through the ejection port; instead, the empty case is retained by the extractor as teh slide cycles forward under spring pressure and as the new round is stripped from the magazine, the empty case is forced against the forward opening of the ejection port and finally forced out (popped out, actually) - usually toward your forehead or in some other inconsistent direction and I believe that either the loads are too light to fully cycle the slide to the rear, the recoil spring is too heavy to allow the slide to retract fully to the rear, or the ejector needs refacing (surfacing). 

The brass hitting your forehead is not a good way to keep score - I know....... but, that can also be rectified without any real problem - just make certain the slide retracts all the way to the rear to properly eject the empty casing, as mentioned above, as you need to assure the face of the ejector is contoured or angled sufficiently so that when the slide fully retracts with the empty case held against the bolt face by the extractor, the empty contacts the face of the ejector at a sufficient angle to be ejected through the ejection port without interference.   I put up with hot brass to the forehead from my Commander for about 25 yrs until I got tired of it and fixed the dang thing by angling the face of the ejector.  Works good now....

When you take a look at range brass, you can find some with the mouth dings but you can find a awful lot without any dings or marks at all, which usually indicates a properly functioning pistol and if it is a standard 1911 or 1911A1 without a opened or lowered ejection port then it is functioning properly, or appers to be from the appearance of the brass.  HTH.