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Offline Incitatus

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Barrel lenghts
« on: April 30, 2011, 03:57:17 PM »
I've been wondering about something.

How come TC decided to nt make shorter barrels anymore?
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Re: Barrel lenghts
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2011, 04:42:03 PM »
Because they did not sell well.
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Re: Barrel lenghts
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2011, 04:16:09 PM »
T/C doesn't make shorter barrels any longer? :-\

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Re: Barrel lenghts
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2011, 04:45:29 PM »
Not sure how short you mean.

I never understood why they quit making the 10" barrels and went to the 12"  There just is not much difference between the 12" and 14" barrels.  I really liked the 10" in the smaller calibers.

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Re: Barrel lenghts
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2011, 12:29:59 AM »
Like I said a few posts up: if the 10 inch barrels were selling well they would be made.  Business are in business to make money.  They do that by selling what their customers want.  They would be incredibly stupid to discontinue a money maker.
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Re: Barrel lenghts
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2011, 09:12:31 AM »
As Keith said, TC has always followed sound business practice by being willing to let go of models no longer profitable for them, and bringing out new ones to replace them.   And that applies to all their product lines.   The barrels have changed over the years with customer demand and so sales.   That demand is influenced in part by the shear numbers of what's already out there from TC that is still in serviceable condition up to near 44 years after it was made.    How many shot-out Contender barrels have you ever heard about?   In 43 years of owning them I could count the ones I have on less than one hand.    So resales of used barrels effects new sales and TC doesn't try to compete with that.   What cartridges they are chambered for has also changed over the years.   New fads bring in new offerings, and when the fad wains so does sales and they are dropped.   The cartridges designed for shooting IHMSA is an easy example.   Some old standard chambers they have always offered remain, but many do not because customer demand changed.     TC's only standard pistol barrels were 10" octagons for the first 5 years until customer demand brought out the 10" and 14"bulls, and they sold so well they eventually replaced the octagons completely.   Obviously demand has changed again, so the 10" barrels have been dropped.   FWIW, TC has also brought models back if customer demand appeared to warrant it.   Most were short reissues though and were soon dropped again.

On the plus side there is probably a million plus 10" barrels out there, and many often come up for sale or trade.   You can always shorten a 12", 14" 16" or 23" if your heart simply can't live without a short bull barrel, or have one made by a custom shop.
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Re: Barrel lenghts
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2011, 09:43:19 AM »
Extending what Larry reviewed, TC has continued to update by offering the G2 and the Encore.  The G2 can be recocked without breaking it open. The Encore line handles mostly rifle cartridges that are too stout for the Original Contender.
  The IHMSA game is oriented toward the 10'' barrel, with the 14'' following.  The number of 10'' barrels are many but IHMSA retains the 10 3/4'' rule.  You have to buy from the secondary market.  IHMSA shooters are critical and I'm sure a number of barrels have been returned as ''non-shooters''. Who knows if it was the barrel or the operator that was the ''non-shooter''. You will notice many of the popular ''silhouette'' chamberings are not offered.
   Still, returns have to be dealt with in the business, raising costs.  TC has absorbed a lot and still produces a very serviceable product. I hope they continue to support the Contender platform.   
   

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Re: Barrel lenghts
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2011, 04:34:21 PM »
Sorry for my stupid post, I guess I never reviewed T/C's accounting books.

I always wondered about the IHMSA rule also.  I read a lot of stuff at the time they droped the 10's the time about no factory barrels being available.  Never thought about the possible return rate.

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Re: Barrel lenghts
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2011, 10:52:39 PM »
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The G2 can be recocked without breaking it open.

So can the Contender, all it takes is knowing how.    ;)
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