2?'s model 12 and 721

[03A2]

1) am I correct in assuming that the 721 remington uses the same scope bases as a model 700?

2) Numrich has stocks for the 12 gauge model 12 winchester, but is "sold out" of 16 and 20.  I thought the 16 was made on a 12 gauge frame and thus don't see why a 12 gauge stock won't work on my 16, but don't want to find out the hard way. Clarification please.

Thanks

[gunnut69]

The 722 uses the same bases as the 700 short action. The actions are nearly identicle with the major difference being the bottom metal used and stock styles.

[Dirt Bag]

03A2
         I think we used a 12 guage stock on a 20 guage reciever before. The tapered stud coming out of the back end and the radial groove around the back of the reciever were the same, but we can't say for sure about the short tang on the trigger group, but if the stock is semi inletted there should be enough extra wood to make it work. The difference was in the outside circumference at the stock head and had to be pruned down and blended into the 20 guage frame. We always tried to slim them down and reshpe them anyway, so this was no big deal. Won't swear to any of this as it was  a long time ago, and we could only afford to make do with what we had then. Don't be afraid to use some epoxy in there where it doesn't show. 
                                                   Good luck'
                                                                           D.B.
P.S.  If you like, I can get out a couple guns and take the stocks off and do a rough measurement..... enough to know for sure.

[Dirt Bag]

  The inletting will be the same. You can see how the bigger reciever has more meat around the outside of the radial groove, and the tangs are the same size. I'd look for a beat up 12 guage stock at the gun shows and then work it over to match what you have.
                                                                                    D.B.

[03A2]

Thanks a bunch guys,  especially DB, didn't mean for you to go to work today.

The 721 came before the 722/725 series if I understand things correctly but from outside apearances all that is different is the bottom metal and the bolt handle.  I was a little concerned because nowhere in the midway catalog did it mention the earlier 700 series rifles, not even in the weaver base section where it lists several of the older discontinued rifles.  So I am assuming that all remington long action non 788 rifles (non mauser and enfield also) share the same bases?

[gunnut69]

The 721 and 722 are the exact same rifles as the M700 long action and short action respectively. The M725 is the last iteration of the line started by the P14/1917 Enfield which Remington built in great quantity for the Brits and then as the 1917 for the US forcces in WWI. After the war Remington engineers refined the design thru several models. Changing the gun to cock on opening and altering the profile..and bottom metal.. The 721/722 was designed to eventually replace the much more difficult to manufacture M725/720 series rifle.. The 700 was and is made in two barrel lengths (short and long). Components will interchange in most cases between the M700's and the correspionding 721/722. I converted a M721 (rebarrled to 270 Win) to use a detachable box mag from a M700 action. Parts came from Ebay() and it is and easy swap.  the M700 ADL uses a seperate bottom metal setup which does not include the hinged floorplate.. It's a blind box magazine rifle, but the actions are the same.. I doubt the mausers imported by Remington use the bases as the 700 series rifles.. and the much larger 720/725 actions are much longer and larger..