I picked up a Win 94 trapper in 357 only thing on the shelf was some pistol handloads I had in 38 and 357 for a 6" S&W they did ok seem to like the 357 case better or may be is was the jacketed bullet 38 had lead? If anyone worked up some loads for the 16" 357 and have the inside track I would appreciate it. The main use for this gun will be to teach the grandkids and first deer rifle