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Offline Rotunda

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English Civil war Cannons
« on: June 14, 2011, 11:30:45 AM »
While on holiday in Kent last week, I visited Deal Castle. Built by the order of King Henry VIII, it is one of the Cinque Ports, running round the Kent and Sussex coast.

 As I walked through the entrance doors, on the right hand side were two cannons, both with extensive damage that looked like it happened when fired.

I asked one of the attendants about the cannons and all they knew them was that they had been told that they were from the English Civil War period.


 





 The trunnion’s  on both cannons look on the short side and of small diameter to me. 
Is this right for English Civil War cannons?

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Re: English Civil war Cannons
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 01:07:47 PM »
Hard to tell without the rest of it but by the taper I would hazzard a guess
that they were English Civil War, they may have had their bores obstructed
and were blown up to prevent capture and use....

Ok the first photo finally up loaded ..... yes I would agree that these are 17th Century cannon.
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Re: English Civil war Cannons
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 05:29:52 PM »
I guess that we are of a different opinion there
18th century yes , but most probably not as early as 17th century
older cannons have a highly significant difference in tapper of the 3 different fields of the cannon
these seem to have had the same degree of tapper all the way

check the picture and you will understand what Im talking about ,
its a bit difficult for me to explain in english .
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Re: English Civil war Cannons
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2011, 11:23:43 AM »
I’ll print off the photos, take them down to the Royal artillery Museum in Woolwich and see if any one there can shed any light them.

It will be interesting to see what they come up with and I’ll keep you informed.

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Re: English Civil war Cannons
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2011, 09:49:04 AM »
Looking at the muzzles, which is difficult from these angles, I think the 17th century date is much closer than 18th century.

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Re: English Civil war Cannons
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2011, 09:50:12 AM »
sorry, forgot to add, since trunnions survive, and there are no trunnion marks on them, this would add to the 17th century rather than 18th century date.

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