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Offline briannmilewis

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Target crown - true or myth?
« on: June 10, 2011, 02:13:27 PM »
I was just wondering if there are such things as target crowns for rifles, why doesn't every rifle manufacturer apply that/those crowns on every rifle that goes out the door?

Or is that something like Savage does to get such great accuracy out of the box from their line of rifles?

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Re: Target crown - true or myth?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 02:31:09 PM »
Well Savage must have forgot to put one on mine- 4"@100 groups.
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Re: Target crown - true or myth?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 02:45:32 PM »
Well Savage must have forgot to put one on mine- 4"@100 groups.
I'd call Savage and ask about sending it back.
Did you try different ammo?
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Re: Target crown - true or myth?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2011, 05:38:02 PM »
Not a myth.  It's a hard edged crown as opposed to a lapped crown like you see on most sporter rifles.  The target crown has the potential to be more accurate but is also more susceptible to being damaged which will destroy any chance at consistent accuracy.  That's why most varmint guns have a recessed target crown, to offer some protection from damage.

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Re: Target crown - true or myth?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2011, 06:50:48 PM »
Hello, briannmilewis.  I have a few match rifles from the early 1900's.  A .22 Pope barreled Ballard has a perfect flat muzzle, which is left in the white, and just the tinest hint of a chamfer around bore..just enough to break any burrs.  A Peterson-Ballard from 1916, has the same type of crown.  Either one of these gunsmiths were the state of the art in their time..And the rifles?  The Peterson is set up with vernier tang & globe front, the Pope has scope blks.  Both will put them into one ragged hole at 50yds. with match ammo.

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Re: Target crown - true or myth?
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2011, 03:05:06 PM »
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Re: Target crown - true or myth?
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2011, 03:57:35 PM »
Ok,  my version of a target crown is cut with a 5/8 inch round rotary ball cutter in a variable speed drill and followed up with a .625 inch brass cylinder coned to a point on one end with a shaft on the other end held in the variable speed drill to finish up the crown using abrasive lapping compound and oil.

My crowns are deeper than factory crowns with the outer edge of the barrel remaining flat and not tapered.

I have owned a 6 m/m Remington with a heavy Douglas barrel with no crown at all that shot consistent .3 tenth inch groups at 100 yards.

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Re: Target crown - true or myth?
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2011, 05:00:20 PM »
Hello, Catfish.  Why yes I do..quite a few, and you probably do too...It is the ubiquitous .22 Long Rifle ctg.  as originally loaded with 5gr. of black powder.  You can find this designation in the older Stevens & Winchester catalogs.

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Re: Target crown - true or myth?
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2011, 09:31:57 PM »
without question most of the target crowned rifles I have seen (and fired) have had the recessed crown. 
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Re: Target crown - true or myth?
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2011, 06:51:31 AM »
Well Savage must have forgot to put one on mine- 4"@100 groups.
had one worse than that  :-\
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Re: Target crown - true or myth?
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2011, 07:31:08 AM »
Well Savage must have forgot to put one on mine- 4"@100 groups.

That's at least 4 times better than the one handi rifle I've owned.