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The 'Hidden' costs of muzzleloading?
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2004, 03:47:40 PM »
If I were REALLY smart I try all the Harvester sabots in each caliber at not more than twenty-five cent a shot.  Combine that with 80gr fffg 777 and that's one of the best bargins in muzzleloading.  Any whitetail to 100-125yds will never know the difference.
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What guns & what conicals?
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2004, 03:51:35 PM »
:grin: Hi jh45gun; You said you cast your own balls & conicals to beat the high costs & also use 777 powder. Can you tell me what guns you shoot & what conicals & powder charges are accurate in each particular gun?  I have a TC bl. diaXR 50 & the only conical I can get to shoot well is a Lee mold cast 320 gr.replica of a TC Maxiball with 75 gr. of Pyro RS  Have tried a Lee cast 360 gr. imp Minie, not accurate also a Lee cast 320 gr. REAL bullet, not accurate so am wondering what you shoot with what results also your thoughts on 777 compared to Pyro RS?? :D

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The 'Hidden' costs of muzzleloading?
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2004, 04:57:37 PM »
First of all I like 777. Not as dirty as black or Pyro but it does leave fouling they all do so reallly I would stick with what works for you or plan on doing lots of expirementing.  What is the twist rate of the Black Diamond? If it is a fast twist you just have to take one conical at a time and shoot starting say with 60 grains of powder and work your way up the scale until you get a decent group of at least 3 shots I would shoot 5 for consistancy. I took the red dot off of my huntsman as it covered too big a area.  I now have a peep sight on it and I was getting  inch to inch and a half groups at 50 yards using a REAL bullet and 90 grains of 777. Which is about a top load since 777 has more omph than black or pyro or any of the others. What shoots well in my gun may not shoot well in yours they are all different even the ones that are the same brand two will not shoot the same. You will just have to play around and see what shoots the best. 0nce you get the gun grouping you will know if you start using too much powder in your search up the scale as the groups will get bigger again. For fast twist rifles I have a huntman made by NEF 1 in 28 twist and am making a inline out of a discontinued knight 54 cal Green Mountain barrel that was for their switch barrel mod MK  86 system. the other gun I have is a round ball gun. Jim
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« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2004, 05:03:48 PM »
Not sure of the weight of my real bullet but I am sure it was the heavy one in 50 cal. Not sure of my 54 cal but I bet it is the heavy one also. If I had the catalog in front of me I could tell you. Jim
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The 'Hidden' costs of muzzleloading?
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2004, 05:27:29 PM »
Quote from: Underclocked
http://www.leeprecision.com/catalog/browse.cgi?1007996282.2837=blackpow.html


Thanks Underclocked :grin:  I have the 320 in 50 cal and 380 in 54 cal. Jim
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