Author Topic: If you let them do something, they will.... (Read 1408 times)

ironglow · « **on:** July 24, 2011, 03:04:23 AM »

If very dangerous things can be done in science and prohibitions are not erected, there will always be a number of mad scientists..who will DO IT !
That is one of the primary reasons why many people are opposed to experiments be allowed wholesale with human embryos..
If something could be devised that would destroy all life on earth instantly..some mad scientist would build it.
Here is some mad scientist work which could hasten the conclusion of God's experiment on this earth...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017818/Embryos-involving-genes-animals-mixed-humans-produced-secretively-past-years.html

BUGEYE · « **Reply #1 on:** July 24, 2011, 03:14:03 AM »

oh no, I think I saw some of those in my gun cabinet.
about embryos, I think that the instant an egg is fertilized, God sticks a soul in it.
if scientists want stem cells etc. use umbilical cord blood.

Stillkickin · « **Reply #2 on:** July 24, 2011, 04:13:01 AM »

Please forgive me if I'm misreading the subject here, but it was in the news that the UK is convening discussion on the establishment of rules regarding the experimental mixing of human and animal genes. Back when they cloned the sheep, I cringed thinking that, no matter how much they bellowed that it would stop there, you know it was just the beginning. God, help us.

Graybeard · « **Reply #3 on:** July 24, 2011, 07:01:38 AM »

Huh?

Your link is to Savage 34, 34M, 65, 65M Schematic W/ Parts List.

What does that have to do with your subject line and comments?

ironglow · « **Reply #4 on:** July 24, 2011, 08:12:51 AM »

OOOPS !!
Sorry guys..sorry Bill..Here's the link;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017818/Embryos-involving-genes-animals-mixed-humans-produced-secretively-past-years.html

I'll replace the one above also.... Ironglow

ironglow · « **Reply #5 on:** July 24, 2011, 08:19:42 AM »

Quote from: Stillkickin on July 24, 2011, 04:13:01 AM

Please forgive me if I'm misreading the subject here, but it was in the news that the UK is convening discussion on the establishment of rules regarding the experimental mixing of human and animal genes. Back when they cloned the sheep, I cringed thinking that, no matter how much they bellowed that it would stop there, you know it was just the beginning. God, help us.
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Stillkickin;
The 'scientists' say.. "nothing to worry about"..by law those embryos must be disposed of withing 14 days.
Rest assured, there is no mad scientist would ever break the law ....not even for "science"..

BUGEYE · « **Reply #6 on:** July 24, 2011, 08:36:54 AM »

these are guys intertaining themselves with other peoples money making things that would go great on a carnival midway. there is no reason to creat those things.

powderman · « **Reply #7 on:** July 26, 2011, 07:47:57 AM »

The worst cross was when they crossed humans and a jackass, they are called dems. POWDERMAN.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #8 on:** July 26, 2011, 07:53:24 AM »

Quote from: powderman on July 26, 2011, 07:47:57 AM

The worst cross was when they crossed humans and a jackass, they are called dems. POWDERMAN.

equating a democrat to a jackass, is a great injustice to the jackass.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #9 on:** July 26, 2011, 08:19:49 AM »

All that said this reserch has made it possible that diabeties will be cured in the near future . Controls should be in place for sure. But do we turn our backs on all of it ? Are we to enter a new Dark Ages ? Better these things be discussed and guided in the right direction.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #10 on:** July 26, 2011, 08:22:00 AM »

Quote from: BUGEYE on July 26, 2011, 07:53:24 AM

Quote from: powderman on July 26, 2011, 07:47:57 AM
The worst cross was when they crossed humans and a jackass, they are called dems. POWDERMAN.
equating a democrat to a jackass, is a great injustice to the jackass.

all valid points

BUT
if my genes can be put into a pig to make a pig with my genes
you can have the pork chops and bacon

i got dibs on the pancrace.....then i will not to shoot insulin EVERY DAY

sometimes we don't like something or don't agree with it
there was a time they burned witches
those folks were just as convinced they were in the right as ya'll

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #11 on:** July 26, 2011, 08:26:15 AM »

i got dibs on the pancrace.....then i will not to shoot insulin EVERY DA
sometimes we don't like something or don't agree with it
there was a time they burned witches
those folks were just as convinced they were in the right as ya'll

They don't burn witches anymore the make them speaker

BUGEYE · « **Reply #12 on:** July 26, 2011, 08:30:14 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on July 26, 2011, 08:19:49 AM

All that said this reserch has made it possible that diabeties will be cured in the near future . Controls should be in place for sure. But do we turn our backs on all of it ? Are we to enter a new Dark Ages ? Better these things be discussed and guided in the right direction.

I respectly disagree. adult stem cells is all that's necessary, or umbilical cord blood. making things that belong in ripleys believe-it-or-not museum doesn't help a thing. if they have to destroy it in 14 days it becomes a bunch of lab techs having fun, not doing research.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #13 on:** July 26, 2011, 08:52:10 AM »

I respect yopur thoughts but I will not be so arrogant as to think I know what they accomplish in 14 days . It was but a short time ago that all stem cell work was taboo.
As far as morals , we teach out youth to be on wealfare and have babbies as a means of support. The moral thing would be to teach them to work. At least these people are trying to help mankind not work it for profit.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #14 on:** July 26, 2011, 10:22:16 AM »

my wife has a neice who is a research scientist so arrogance has nothing to do with it. most of her work is in DNA and she's a lot smarter than me so that's where I'm coming from.

ironglow · « **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2011, 02:13:44 AM »

Right Bugeye;
I have heard from scientists that the best genetics to help a person is often a culture of their own cells.
As far as embryonic stem cells, researchers say the ulimbical cord produces just as useful material. The drive to play with embryos is only a ploy by the pro-aborts..trying to justify their killing industry.
They may justify it in their own minds...but when they arrive at the great white throne..let them try to explain it to HIM !
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Judgment Before the Great White Throne
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2011, 02:25:42 AM »

ya'll say only certian cells are needed and others are not . I don't profess to know but one must ask if only one type cell was used then how would we / they know what use the other cells would have ?
So do we play with cells until we need glasses then stop ? We are not in the garden we seek knowlege . We do need to respect what we learn and use it correctly but would God allow us to know if we were not suppose to learn ?

BUGEYE · « **Reply #17 on:** July 27, 2011, 05:46:32 AM »

Quote from: SHOOTALL on July 27, 2011, 02:25:42 AM

ya'll say only certian cells are needed and others are not . I don't profess to know but one must ask if only one type cell was used then how would we / they know what use the other cells would have ?
So do we play with cells until we need glasses then stop ? We are not in the garden we seek knowlege . We do need to respect what we learn and use it correctly but would God allow us to know if we were not suppose to learn ?

God gives everyone a choice. some chose evil and he destroyed 2 cities.
my wife has diabetes which is controlled with diet and pills, no insulin as yet. but she has took a stand against using embryos for research. it's dangerous ground that could cost her soul.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #18 on:** July 27, 2011, 05:51:39 AM »

Quote from: BUGEYE on July 27, 2011, 05:46:32 AM

Quote from: SHOOTALL on July 27, 2011, 02:25:42 AM
ya'll say only certian cells are needed and others are not . I don't profess to know but one must ask if only one type cell was used then how would we / they know what use the other cells would have ?
So do we play with cells until we need glasses then stop ? We are not in the garden we seek knowlege . We do need to respect what we learn and use it correctly but would God allow us to know if we were not suppose to learn ?
God gives everyone a choice. some chose evil and he destroyed 2 cities.
my wife has diabetes which is controlled with diet and pills, no insulin as yet. but she has took a stand against using embryos for research. it's dangerous ground that could cost her soul.

well she has the right to make that choice

are we all pro-choice here?

ironglow · « **Reply #19 on:** July 27, 2011, 06:09:51 AM »

Well, I am completely pro-choice..
Where it comes to the abortion question..I believe all those little girls and boys should be allowed to live..at least until they can make THEIR CHOICE as to whether they are to live or die..