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Cannon pictures
« on: May 28, 2011, 03:16:13 PM »

I posted this picture earlier, but the cannon and balls have since been repainted.  It was silver.  It looks nice now.  They have the Veteran's cemetery all fixed up nice for Veteran's Day.  This is in the Greendale, Indiana cemetery.


This picture is also in the Greendale Cemetery.  Most of the Veterans here are from WW I to present day.


This cannon is in the Lawrenceburg City Park.  It looks to be bronze.  I think it is Civil War era.

I would appreciate information about these cannons.  Happy Veteran's Day!

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Re: Cannon pictures
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2011, 04:34:37 PM »
     Forestclimber,   thanks for posting the photo of the Rodman Gun.  You realize of course that they have the wrong projectiles stacked up next to it.  No, I can't tell an 8" cannonball from a 10" cannonball at that distance, however I can tell the difference from a cannon ball and a cylindical, large rifle projectile, which is certainly what should be there.  Take a good look at the muzzle of that big Rodman.  Doesn't it look odd?  It does not look rounded at the outer edge as it should and there appear to be concentric rings upon the muzzle face.  This conversion to a muzzle inserted, rifled lining usually brought a 10" Rodman down to an 8" Rifle, much more rarely, an 8" down to a 6.4" rifle.  The photo below illustrates just this type of conversion.  Sorry, I don't know anything about machine guns or a bronze gun with an odd hump behind it's muzzle swell.

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Rodman, Muzzle Insertion Conversion to a seacoast rifle at Fort Knox, Bucksport, Maine.




Details of the muzzle.  Now you can see why the Rodman muzzle in your shot looks odd.

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Re: Cannon pictures
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Re: Cannon pictures
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2011, 08:43:59 PM »
The bronze piece looks like one of the 1841 series to me .

Nice looking cemetery .... for Memorial Day .

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Re: Cannon pictures
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2011, 03:24:14 AM »
The bore of the Rodman cannon is 8 inches.  Here is what it says around the opening on the bore:

WPF 1885   M.S. Co 30   No. 30   F.E.H.   16010

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Re: Cannon pictures
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2011, 09:21:24 AM »
Forestclimber,
 
The WPF marked on the muzzleface stands for West Point Foundry where the gun was cast, and I believe the M.S. Co stands for the Midvale Steel Company, which manufactured rifled sleeves for some of these guns (this one has 24 groove right hand twist). The No. 30 is the Registry number, the weight is 16,010 lbs, and the year 1885. I don't know what the letters F.E.H. represent, the inspector of this gun is identified as RB on the National Registry.
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