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What weight bullet?
« on: July 31, 2011, 06:56:12 AM »
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Having the choice of loading four different jacketed bullets to hunt elk hinds with a 45-70 at a range not exceeding 100 yards.
 
What are you recommendation and MV you feel are needed?
 

 
  All four bullets group acceptable from the same rifle.
 
   1. 300 gr Remington HP      2. 350 gr Hdy RN    3. 400 gr Speer FN     4. 405 gr Remington FN
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Re: What weight bullet?
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2011, 07:53:19 AM »
 ;)  Scatter, my Marlin is loaded with the 350 grain Horn. fp over Elmer Keiths recommended load of 3031.... I haven't shot any of the Rem. or Speer bullets yet..did shoot some 300 grain Horn. and they were very destructive on antelope..so far this new load has taken whitetails and antelope..this fall I will carry it as a spare for elk..but most of my elk hunting is in pretty open country...based on what I have seen, the Horn. 350 would be my first choice, then maybe the Speer, but as I said, I have not shot it on target or game.....
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Re: What weight bullet?
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 06:03:26 PM »
Thanks WCH.
Perhaps some others can chime in. I had mental reservation with choosing the 300 gr HP. Your experience confirmed that. I may chicken out on the 45-70 using the tried and true 30-06 instead.
 What sort of live weight can I expect from a hind?
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Re: What weight bullet?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 06:12:30 PM »
Go with a 400 or heavier cast bullet, loaded to standard ballistics, and get ready to do some field dressing.
 Cow elk will carcass weigh anywhere from 150-250 lbs. Depending on their age and body condition.
 
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Re: What weight bullet?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 06:28:21 PM »
Quote from: Ranch13 on July 31, 2011, 06:12:30 PM
Go with a 400 or heavier cast bullet, loaded to standard ballistics, and get ready to do some field dressing.
 Cow elk will carcass weigh anywhere from 150-250 lbs. Depending on their age and body condition.

I have several weight cast bullets. Most of them from Lee Molds and they shoot fair to good. What concerns me is the relative small meplat on them. The best measurement I can get on them is .310 to maybe .315.
 
Standard Ballistics meaning 1300 to 1600 fps ??
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Re: What weight bullet?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 06:35:29 PM »
The meplat may or may not be all that important with these big punkin rollers. If you look at the original bullets they didn't have much of a meplat.
13-1400 fps is more than sufficient.
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Re: What weight bullet?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 06:54:15 PM »
The Hornady 350 is made for use in the .458 Winchester therefore might not expand and just act like a solid at 45-70 velocity.

Of those you have listed I'd suggest the Remington 405 or Speer 400. Both should work fine. The Remington bullet doesn't need to be pushed hard to expand and likely the Speer wouldn't either.
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Re: What weight bullet?
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 02:07:33 AM »
im a fan of cast bullets and heavy bullets in the 4570. If i was going to use a jacketed bullet it would probably be the 405 rem. Its allways worked.
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Re: What weight bullet?
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 10:50:56 AM »
Alright ! :)
 
I got a nice 405 Rem load with 27 gr. of 2400 made up from the year before. I'll take that one. ;D
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