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The logic of Ronald Regan.
« on: July 20, 2011, 05:23:17 PM »
"Socialism only works
in two  places:
Heaven where they don't
need it and hell  where they already have it."
-Ronald  Reagan

'Here's my  strategy on
the Cold  War:
We win, they lose.'
- Ronald Reagan


'The most terrifying words
in the English  language are:
I'm from the government
and I'm here to  help.'
-Ronald Reagan


'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they  know so much that isn't so.'
-Ronald Reagan


'Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too  strong.
- Ronald Reagan


'I have wondered at
times about what  the
Ten Commandments would
have looked like if  Moses
had run them  through
the U.S.  Congress..
-Ronald Reagan


'The taxpayer:
That's someone who works
for the federal  government
but doesn't  have to take the
civil service  examination.'
- Ronald Reagan


'Government is like a baby:
An alimentary canal with a
big appetite at one  end and
no sense of  responsibility
at the  other'
- Ronald Reagan


'The nearest thing to eternal
life we will ever  see on
this earth is  a
government program.'
- Ronald Reagan


'It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession.
I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first'
- Ronald Reagan


'Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short  phrases:
If it moves, tax it.
If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving,
subsidize it'
- Ronald Reagan


'Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed,
there are many  rewards;
if you disgrace  yourself,
you can always write  a book.'
- Ronald Reagan


'No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is as formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.'- Ronald  Reagan


'If we ever forget that  we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone  under.'-Ronald  Reagan
 
Smart man. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 05:49:09 PM »
  Reagan said he was not a great communicator, he communicated great things.
A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.   John F. Kennedy

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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 06:00:39 PM »
I liked Reagan as a president. He was strong towards would be enemies and kind to friends. 4 hours after his inauguration, Iran released the American hostages taken and held under the Carter fiasco errr administration. Reagan had said if he became president those folks would be coming home even if it meant by force. A man of his word. I also liked him becuase he thought the government should stay out of our lives.

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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2011, 06:38:28 PM »
'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they  know so much that isn't so.'
-Ronald Reagan


 
 
He pretty well had liberals pegged. Can you imagine his response to the liberal dems today?? POWDERMAN.  :( :(
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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 08:39:41 PM »
A man with common sense. Very rare nowdays in politics. gypsyman
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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 01:58:51 AM »
It is a shame that many today would call him a rino if he was currently running.
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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2011, 02:16:01 AM »
It is a shame that many today would call him a rino if he was currently running.
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  Guzzi;
   Now that is a serious misunderstanding of the term "rino'. Rino (Republican in name only) simply means one who calls himself a Republican but votes and acts like a liberal or Democrat.
  Just which of those Reagan truisms posted above, would be heartily endorsed and supported by the leading Democrats on capitol hill ?
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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2011, 03:29:41 AM »
He said that he changed from being a Democrat in the 1950's to being a Republican because while he was traveling around the country, talking with mom's and pop's businesses, he realised "government wasn't the solution, government was the problem".  He had a complete Democratically controlled congress his whole administration and had a hard time getting what he wanted.  So, he had to compromise just to get part of it.  He wanted to cut the budget, but dems kept jacking up the spending.  He went along, because the debt was rising slower than the economy, and was becoming a lower percentage of the GDP.  Same was happening with Bush, until the Dems took over congress in 2006, that is when the economy started going south, not from 2001-2005.  Dems are good at blaming, but bad on solutions. 

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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2011, 05:10:27 AM »
DD...I'm certain the truth is that the truth is neither democrat nor republican. An that the 'economy' is controlled by either party said to be in charge at any given time...but that the economy is 'controlled' from Wall St and London.  Founidng Father's shunned poltical parties...knowing it would lead to a disuntiy dialectic at behest of power interests over the people.....how right they were.! Political parties no way represent interest of citizens primarily...but represent interests of their funders....this has been amplified by recent SCOTUS decisions......
 
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   Ummmm...correction TM;
   Our US constitution was ratified in 1887... the political parties started in ......1787:
   http://everything2.com/title/Evolution+of+American+political+parties+from+the+Revolution+to+the+Reconstruction
   ...And they were started by the likes of Thos Jefferson, John Adams & James Madison.  Can't get much closer to the "founding fathers" than that !
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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2011, 05:41:05 AM »
When Reagan was young the whole world was socialist.  After we got in a very serious war with the right-wing socialists, that left only one other kind.  To Reagan's credit, he saw the folly of it and tried to chart a different course - him and quite a few other Americans - but I think he knew it would be an uphill battle.  If he came back today he would be simply heartbroken.  That's why a few months ago I ventured the opinion that Papa Bush had squandered the great gift Reagan left us.  He just couldn't wait to get back to business as usual.

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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2011, 06:00:03 AM »
Reagan started out as a democrat.....and union officer. I'm sure he has said great liberating things along the way.  Too bad what happened to him....by the TPTB
 
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   Indeed !   I also started as a Democrat.  In fact the first president I voted for was JFK.  It was right after JFK that the dermocrats veered sharply to the left.  By the time they Nominated McGovern, I realized they had gone so far left that they had surely left me !
  When they further ventured into their anti-God stances, declared war on pre-born boys & girls, siding with the cross banners and flag burners, kissing up to homosexuals (both literally and figuratively), taking more from those willing to work..and giving it to those unwilling to work, pardoning those who in the 70s, cursed the USA and ran off to other countries.../I was forced to quit them !  In reality, they were building a coalition of misfits..
     Even today, at this moment, they are attempting to destroy both the first and second articles of the Bill of Rights...and the Republicans aren't much better,  not really fighting the Dems anti-constitutional efforts near strongly enough..
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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2011, 06:06:28 AM »
I really don't think it will ever be fixed in the voting booth.  we're neck deep in liberals.
btw, he is no longer Ronald Reagan, he's now Pinwheel Reagan from spinning in his grave.
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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2011, 07:38:08 AM »
I think a lot of problems started when congress and the SEC started allowing a lot of "mergers" to "compete" with big foreign state sponsered companies.  Banks merged to form big national and international banks.  Oil companies were allowed to merge and buy out smaller ones to compete with BP and Shell.  This created Exxon-Mobil.  I remember when in Alabama, we had Esso, Pure, Texaco, Amoco, Gulf, Cities Service, Standard, Union 76, Sinclair, etc.  About 10-15 different oil companies.  Now it is probably less than 5-6 in a 75,000 population area.  Banks the same way.  Had several locally owned banks, not only about 2 locally owned.  The bigger they all got, the more they could control prices, interest rates, etc.  Mom and pop stores went out of business because of Walmart, Lowe's and Home Depot type stores.  I say we need to go back and break up the big banks and big corporations into smaller ones for more competition and there would be more millionares instead of a few billionares.  Things would drop back to middle class.  Even now there are only two major aircraft manufacturers, Lockheed and Boeing.  We used to have Martin, Northrop, Grumman, North American, Consolidated, Hughes.  Boeing has to compete against Airbus of France which is subsidised by the French government. I think it the same with the Dutch company Shell.  Don't know about the Brittish company BP.  Our companies are limited in their ability to compete overseas, yet we freely allow the foreign owned companies to locate here.
 
Now, there are natural monopolies like AT&T, or some utility companies, and they are regulated to keep their prices down, like power and natural gas.  However, we shouldn't have allowed the oil companies to merge, nor allow the foreign owned companies to come in like BP and buy up Amoco and Texaco.  Nor Exxon to buy up Esso and Mobil.  Also, should Boeing have been allowed to by Consolidated, or Lockheed to buy Martin?  Hasn't helped either to compete much against a government subsidised Airbus.  Same thing happened with the auto companies.  GM was a merger of Chevrolet, Oldsmobile, Buick, and Catalac (sp?) and they created Pontiac.  Ford was independent.  Chrysler was also a merger of Chrysler, Dodge, and Plymouth.   There were others like Hudson, Desoto, American Motors (Rambler), Willys (Jeep).  Many others who went out of business.  I think they got too big to change quickly like during the 70s' with the Arab Oil Embargo.  Japan jumped in with small fuel efficient cars.  Our companies were slow to change and it has now caught up. 
 
If we look at how foreign governments subsidise their industries or what they do to increase their employment and movement into the industrialised world, we need to take note.  Maybe we need some protectionism.  We need manufacturing jobs to come back to America, put us back to work making things, providing health care for the workers, etc.  How do we get there?  Lower taxes?  Tarriffs on foreign products?  Business friendly environment?  Non-union workers?  Or a combination of all. 
 
I think getting us energy independent is step one.  Drill more, use natural gas in fleets, more small diesel engine vehicles.  Streamline permitting for nuclear power plants, possibly use thorium reactors instead of uranium. (Radioactive waste breaks down faster, and can't be made into bombs).  Kick start power transmission lines from windmills in plains states east and west. 
 
Tarriffs on Chinese imports if they don't allow their money to float.  If their money floated, the prices of their products would go up and ours would go down.  Put a tarriff on to make the price go up to what it would cost if it was made here. 
 
I am for protecting the environment, but streamline the process.  Instead of mounds of paperwork, have stiff fines violations instead.  Government shouldn't have libraries of how to keep an area protected from polution, but just tell the companies they are limited in minimum releases into the environment, let the industry figure out how to install, build, drill, mine or burn. 
 
Simplify education in grade school, limit it it reading, writing, math, history, basic science, and civics (citizenship).  Have more exercise, recess, or something to keep kids off Ridlin.  Wear them out instead of making them sit still for long periods. 
 
Change laws back to pre Carter days for child labor.  16-18 year old boys should be able to work a a garage, help with building homes, installing utilities, etc.  In 1980 70% of teens under 19 worked part time or summer jobs.  Today it is only 15%.  Less drugs and crime. 
 
Use national guard to round up and send home illegals.  No welfare, school, or jobs for illegals period.  Drains our governments dry.  No American citizenship for kids born here by illegals. 
 
Well, I could go on.
 
 

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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2011, 07:53:57 AM »
Dixie Dude, interesting.  they deregulated natural gas here in Ga. and my gas bill jumped from about $15 per month to about $40 dollars per month.   I only have a water heater on gas, about $9 of actual gas used then add tax and the $25 rental on the gas line.
If my elec panel was big enough, I'd switch to elec water heater and tell the gas company to get their gas line off my property.  or, charge them rent.
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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2011, 09:33:55 AM »
Deregulation of monolopy utilities is not a good thing.  There are natural monopolies like utilities.  The way Georgia did it was crazy.  One company installs and maintains the underground facilities, but might not sell the gas. Another company buys the gas, pays this company to transmit it, then owns the meter to bill the customer.  Doesn't make sense.  Monolopies have to be regulated.  Just like mergers have to be approved by the SEC.  Lots of big mergers should not have happened.  The way Georgia deregulated, the also deregulated what the utilities could charge.  We worked out a deal in Alabama where a utility company is guarenteed a 9-13% profit above operating costs.  If it drops below 9% utility gets a rate increase, if it goes above 13% utility gets a rate cut.  This profit sounds like a lot, but some industries get far more profits.  The profits are usually spent on new main extensions into new developments, replacing old mains, buying new equipment, replacing old equipment, and bonuses for all employees.  Operating expenses include checking for and repairing leaks, inspections of regulating and metering equipment, salaries of workers, utility costs and rent/taxes on buildings owned/rented, gasoline for trucks (unless they run on natural gas), cost of the gas from suppliers. 

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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2011, 09:39:05 AM »
Obama through the EPA is trying to shut down coal fired power plants, so if he gets his way, electricity will rise faster.  Also, an electric water heater with Alabama Power costs about $40-50 a month to operate, not counting any extra minimum bill, which I think is $10.  My home is all gas, water heater, heat, cooking, grill, and a gas cloths dryer.  It is about $40 a month in summer, and $150 in winter.  My electric bill in summer runs abou $400.  Mostly air conditioning.  It runs about $100 in winter, even with all the gas equipment.  Bug, you probably use Georgia Power which is a sister company to Alabama power.  I have a 2,800 sq feet in my house with 10', and 14' ceilings, large windows. 

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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2011, 10:14:08 AM »
Yes he was! He surrounded himself with good political advisers and writers like Pat Buchanan ;D
Not trying to take anything away from the man himself!
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Re: The logic of Ronald Regan.
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2011, 11:39:54 AM »
Dixie Dude,  I haven't had a problem with prices so far but that $25 per month rental on 50' of gas line really tightens my jaws.  your house is a lot bigger than mine and much higher ceilings so mine is easy to heat and cool.
yes, georgia power.
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