Had a friend bring me a box of 30/30 reloads someone had given him, said the first shot kicked the snot out him and wanted me to check them. First thing, two different primers. Next, pulled the bullets, 150's and 170's. Eyeballed each powder charge, had some cases nearly full of some kind of fine grained powder such as might be found in pistol powder. Others had a very short charge, not even 1/3 full, of some kind of stick grained powder. I think the idiot that loaded them must have been cleaning his loading bench, a real candidate for the Darwin award. Just hope he doesn't take someone else out. Goatwhiskers